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'74 4001 Burgundy Glo?

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:24 am
by jpoprock
When did red fret markers hit? Because my Serial is NA225 and they are BLACK.

Plus, for a Burg, mine isn't really "burgundy". It's more of a "tomato" color. Very strange. Pictures will come tonight!

Jason

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:45 am
by rickcrazy
Well, in the face of the fact that Burgundyglo is (was?) obtained by mixing Jetglo and Fireglo together (or so I've been told), I believe that the 'tomato' color on your 4001 simply resulted from some degree of inconsistency in said mix (= more FG than JG).
As for the red markers, may be they weren't introduced until February or March 1974. Both my April 74 and my June 74 4001s have them.

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:24 am
by henny
From 1973-onwards, the BG finish became lighter, so it seems. My friend owns a 73 and a 74 4001 in BG, and they are both far lighter, too.

My 72 comes out real dark and deep on camera, almost a smokey purple!

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Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:45 am
by jpoprock
Yeah, mine is cool looking for sure. It's very "tomato red/rust" looking even. I dig it. I've never seen one like it.

J

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:03 pm
by loendmaestro
My '74 is #ND2209 & has red fret markers. Anybody else out there have one between January & April?

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:07 pm
by cheyenne
I think Jeff Rath mentioned that he owned a '74 with black markers also.

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:57 pm
by jpoprock
Very cool. Man, I can't get over how cool mine looks... but I can't get a good picture that does it justice. It's kinda got a "fireglo without the burst" look. It's nowhere near burgundy, but more of a RUST color. It's way way cool. It's a player bass.. Meaning it's worn and not at all mint...yet not junk. But it plays wonderfully and the neck is straight as a bored. It's a great color. However, if I had a chance at a Montezuma Brown, I'd probl sell this one to get one.

I'll get pix up before long.
Jason

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:30 pm
by baltimucho
I call it "Tomato-Glo."

::m::

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:22 pm
by rickfan60
I was told by someone who knows that Burgandyglo was a mixture of the scarlet from fireglo and black.

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:34 am
by relayer
I have a '75 that, for the longest time, I just considered dark red (not thinking anything of it). My dad bought it for me used in approximately '82-'83 when I first started playing (yes, I know I was a lucky kid :p), and I just found a reply letter from Rickenbacker where they state that the photo I'd sent showed it to be a Fireglo (it isn't, though, it's a solid dark red). I have an interest in the minutia of Ricks, but haven't had time to absorb that kind of thing myself, but in the last year or so I've pondered it a bit, and now I'm wondering if what I have *is* actually Burgandyglo. Mine has the white binding, but black pickguard/TRC. I've been saying it for a while, but I'm going to have to borrow a digital camera, darn it. :-\

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 3:46 am
by henny
Sounds like Ruby Red to me.

If it was Black Trim from the factory however, it'd have black binding.

A lot of people have trouble differentiating between BG and RB (Ruby Red), especially on older basses.

I have an inkling that Jpoprock's 4001 is infact Ruby.

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:51 am
by relayer
Okay then, that's another option that I wasn't aware of. :-)

As for the trim - it may have been swapped out. My main concern is the TRC, though - it's the clear backpainted plexy (or lucite or whatever it was), but the actual Rickenbacker lettering is either a bit sloppy or has 'bled' a bit. Also it just says Rickenbacker - no "Made In USA" etc. I'm not worried that the whole bass is a fake, just possibly the TRC (as I said, I've had it since about '82). I had (and still do) intended to eventually run a thread about it when I get around to posting pictures.

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:02 am
by jaymi
Ruby red was not produced until the early 80's so it is probably a faded burg

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:05 am
by rictified
BG is much darker than Ruby anyway, I have an 81 4003 BG and there is definitely a black componant to the paint.

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:09 am
by henny
1980?

That I *didn't* know, Jaymi. Cheers bud. Image