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Mitch Berger (Octagon)
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Post Number: 57
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 24.118.136.83
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

425 with "Electro" on headstock

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41439&item=7312421254&rd=1
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Peter McCormack (Admin)
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Post Number: 3122
Registered: 04-2003
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Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Mitch: This instrument was made by Rickenbacker for distribution through Radio Tel and is the real deal. It is similar to the Model 425 and had a set neck. I am unsure of the precise production dates but have read from a number of sources that it was produced during the period 1964 to 1975.
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Mitch Berger (Octagon)
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Post Number: 58
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Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Thanks for the info Peter.I never saw one before.
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David Coyle (Xcoyle)
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Post Number: 107
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 69.210.249.255
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Mitch, the model is offically called Electro ES-17, which is the same as 425, or in this case a 420, becuase it is a 1973 guitar. They also made an ES-16 which was the same Rickenbacker 1000.

Peter, I just sent some photos of my Electro ES-16 to Bjorn to fill out his "Models" section. My ES-16 is March 1963.
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Howard Bishop (Ozover50)
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Post Number: 447
Registered: 01-2005
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Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I heard that it was sort of a 'student' electric guitar. Is this the case?
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Bob Belloff (Belloff)
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Post Number: 192
Registered: 02-2004
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Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Maybe that is how it was marketed, but by ES-16 was every bit as good a guitar as any Rickenbacker. Played great.
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Bob Belloff (Belloff)
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Post Number: 193
Registered: 02-2004
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Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post

BTW, Peter, they released a special run of these in 1982 to use up the remaining stock. I believe it was a matched set of ES-16 guitar and a small amplifier (can not remember the model) and were ordered by a music shop in Pennsylvania. Perhaps JH can fill in the details.
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David Coyle (Xcoyle)
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Post Number: 112
Registered: 04-2004
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Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

IMO the ES-17, 425, 420 were all limited with the one pickup in the middle. The 450 is one of my favorite guitars and has great tones with the front and back pickups. The middle position only just doesn't sound great. George Harrison modified his to a 450.