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John Pollard (Squid)
Senior Member Username: Squid
Post Number: 138 Registered: 09-2003 Posted From: 142.108.148.167
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 01:38 pm: |
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Well, maybe the 380L discontinuation isn't such a glum thing after all. I'm really anxious to see and play the new models that will be released in its wake. Will it be a modern hollow-body in a similar vein? I hope so. |
   
Steve Carsello (Steverok)
Junior Member Username: Steverok
Post Number: 21 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 129.188.33.221
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 02:39 pm: |
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Dave wrote : "Very unfair comment, IMHO. It's the first price hike since 1999, a modest one at that, and not across the board." I never looked at their prices until November of 2004, when I got my first. Your basic Ric 330 will now go for over $1500 retail, and $1100 will be about the best price you can get a new one for. An American Strat now goes for $930 on Musician's Friend !! That is insane. Clearly, seeing the quality of the Rickenbacker womrkmanship, in comparison to that of a basic Strat, justifies it, I guess. I mean, it's not going to stop me from buying ANOTHER one. Complaining about inflation is one of my hobbies, must be turning into an old geezer already ... |
   
paul wilczynski (Jingle_jangle)
Senior Member Username: Jingle_jangle
Post Number: 1290 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 63.193.9.8
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 02:49 pm: |
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I think that you can do better than $1100.00 for a new 330-6. Maybe not a whole lot, but $1100.00 is sort of an average price. There is no comparison between belly-button Strats (no matter how "custom-shopped" they may be) and any Rick. |
   
Stan Castles (Buzfluhart)
Senior Member Username: Buzfluhart
Post Number: 361 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 64.216.32.210
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 03:16 pm: |
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As a rule of thumb you can take, as an average, about 70% of the MSRP to get the price, sometimes even a little better. As an example a 330, listed now at around 1500, would go for about 1050. At least this is the experience I've had. |
   
Dave Westheimer (Dave4004)
Senior Member Username: Dave4004
Post Number: 1115 Registered: 06-2002 Posted From: 69.91.31.135
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 04:13 pm: |
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Steverok, the 4003 has listed for $1529 since 1999 and there are a number of dealers who sell it in the just-under-$1000 range. It will be no different with the 330 at $1519. There are RIC dealers out there who sell at approximately 35%-37% off list. For that matter, there are Fender dealers who sell for 35% or more off list, but they can't advertise it. A better Strat comparison would be the 620, since it's a solid body. You'll still be able to buy it for about $900 through a number of dealers, and it has deluxe features (binding and inlay) that you don't get on the regular American Series Fenders. Of course that's not Fender's thing anyway, and I couldn't care less about binding and inlays, but the point is, the 620 is competitive with Fender's American Series. And Fender has been going up about 5% per year. |
   
Steve Carsello (Steverok)
Junior Member Username: Steverok
Post Number: 22 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 136.182.2.222
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 04:19 pm: |
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5% growth on guitars, huh? That beats bonds and many other forms of low-risk investment. Maybe I should go buy a bunch of guitars, and put them in a storage unit under A/C for about 10 years. |
   
paul wilczynski (Jingle_jangle)
Senior Member Username: Jingle_jangle
Post Number: 1296 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 63.193.9.8
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 05:22 pm: |
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That's Fender's prices, not the value of stock or so-called "collectible" guitars, both of which are on their own schedules, anyway. The time to invest in guitars was the mid-to-late '70s...Ahhhh..... |
   
John Pollard (Squid)
Senior Member Username: Squid
Post Number: 139 Registered: 09-2003 Posted From: 142.108.148.167
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 05:48 pm: |
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Not to hijack the thread, but I still think that the interesting part of the announcement is John Hall's follow-up statement regarding new models. I'm really not fazed by the new pricing schedule at all. John, can we coax you into divulging any details? Even some scant details? |
   
Jeffrey Scott (Jps)
Senior Member Username: Jps
Post Number: 2704 Registered: 02-2003 Posted From: 66.72.196.10
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 07:54 pm: |
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"The price increase was similar in scale to those that our competitors have on an annual basis- except that we haven't done it for six years!" Sounds like my business. Our current price list dates to December 2002, but the previous one was February 1997! |
   
Howard Bishop (Ozover50)
Senior Member Username: Ozover50
Post Number: 440 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 203.221.79.128
| | Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 10:53 pm: |
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IMHO, for what you get, the value would still be there with another price-hike of the same proportions. To me, a Rick is a Rick and they have always been scarce and relatively expensive in Oz. Just about everybody I talk to goes gooey in the grotto when I tell them I've got two Ricks, including the duds in the music 'supermarkets' who have never seen one! For me, that alone gives them added value!! Just the same, I hope the Aussie dollar stays strong against the US one. |