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John Pollard (Squid)
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Post Number: 138
Registered: 09-2003
Posted From: 142.108.148.167
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Well, maybe the 380L discontinuation isn't such a glum thing after all. I'm really anxious to see and play the new models that will be released in its wake. Will it be a modern hollow-body in a similar vein? I hope so.
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Steve Carsello (Steverok)
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 129.188.33.221
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Dave wrote : "Very unfair comment, IMHO. It's the first price hike since 1999, a modest one at that, and not across the board."

I never looked at their prices until November of 2004, when I got my first. Your basic Ric 330 will now go for over $1500 retail, and $1100 will be about the best price you can get a new one for. An American Strat now goes for $930 on Musician's Friend !! That is insane. Clearly, seeing the quality of the Rickenbacker womrkmanship, in comparison to that of a basic Strat, justifies it, I guess. I mean, it's not going to stop me from buying ANOTHER one. Complaining about inflation is one of my hobbies, must be turning into an old geezer already ...
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paul wilczynski (Jingle_jangle)
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Post Number: 1290
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 63.193.9.8
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I think that you can do better than $1100.00 for a new 330-6.

Maybe not a whole lot, but $1100.00 is sort of an average price.

There is no comparison between belly-button Strats (no matter how "custom-shopped" they may be) and any Rick.
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Stan Castles (Buzfluhart)
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Post Number: 361
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 64.216.32.210
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

As a rule of thumb you can take, as an average, about 70% of the MSRP to get the price, sometimes even a little better. As an example a 330, listed now at around 1500, would go for about 1050. At least this is the experience I've had.
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Dave Westheimer (Dave4004)
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Post Number: 1115
Registered: 06-2002
Posted From: 69.91.31.135
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Steverok, the 4003 has listed for $1529 since 1999 and there are a number of dealers who sell it in the just-under-$1000 range. It will be no different with the 330 at $1519. There are RIC dealers out there who sell at approximately 35%-37% off list. For that matter, there are Fender dealers who sell for 35% or more off list, but they can't advertise it.

A better Strat comparison would be the 620, since it's a solid body. You'll still be able to buy it for about $900 through a number of dealers, and it has deluxe features (binding and inlay) that you don't get on the regular American Series Fenders. Of course that's not Fender's thing anyway, and I couldn't care less about binding and inlays, but the point is, the 620 is competitive with Fender's American Series. And Fender has been going up about 5% per year.
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Steve Carsello (Steverok)
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 136.182.2.222
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

5% growth on guitars, huh? That beats bonds and many other forms of low-risk investment. Maybe I should go buy a bunch of guitars, and put them in a storage unit under A/C for about 10 years.
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paul wilczynski (Jingle_jangle)
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Post Number: 1296
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 63.193.9.8
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

That's Fender's prices, not the value of stock or so-called "collectible" guitars, both of which are on their own schedules, anyway.

The time to invest in guitars was the mid-to-late '70s...Ahhhh.....
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John Pollard (Squid)
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Post Number: 139
Registered: 09-2003
Posted From: 142.108.148.167
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Not to hijack the thread, but I still think that the interesting part of the announcement is John Hall's follow-up statement regarding new models. I'm really not fazed by the new pricing schedule at all.

John, can we coax you into divulging any details? Even some scant details?
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Jeffrey Scott (Jps)
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Post Number: 2704
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 66.72.196.10
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

"The price increase was similar in scale to those that our competitors have on an annual basis- except that we haven't done it for six years!"

Sounds like my business. Our current price list dates to December 2002, but the previous one was February 1997!
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Howard Bishop (Ozover50)
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Post Number: 440
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 203.221.79.128
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

IMHO, for what you get, the value would still be there with another price-hike of the same proportions. To me, a Rick is a Rick and they have always been scarce and relatively expensive in Oz.

Just about everybody I talk to goes gooey in the grotto when I tell them I've got two Ricks, including the duds in the music 'supermarkets' who have never seen one!

For me, that alone gives them added value!!

Just the same, I hope the Aussie dollar stays strong against the US one.