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Graham Griffiths (8mileshigh)
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Post Number: 166
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 82.163.189.40
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Hey Gary - I've got number 68.......who's got 67?
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Brian Rodger (Brian)
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Post Number: 308
Registered: 05-2003
Posted From: 66.183.117.177
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Bob

Rough as in a lot of "dings" or finish is lifting or ?
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Gary Clauson (Doctorwho)
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Post Number: 1331
Registered: 06-2002
Posted From: 64.168.183.122
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2005 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Cool Graham, I don't know who has # 67 - is it in the Registry by chance?
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Bob Belloff (Belloff)
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Post Number: 194
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 67.85.191.150
Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post

TONS of heavy checking, some very decent-sized lacquer melts in the headstock area from a hanger, and chips galore. I think he really should have put more detailed pics in the auction.
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Brian Rodger (Brian)
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Post Number: 309
Registered: 05-2003
Posted From: 66.183.117.177
Posted on Saturday, April 02, 2005 - 11:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Sounds like it, thanks for the info. How does the lack of a certificate ususally affect the price ? Do the models with no compressor sell for less or because they are rarer do they get a premium price ? My opinion is the electronics as well as the name association are part of the attraction so not having them would be a negative, but from a purely collectible point of view maybe the rarity is larger plus.
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Bob Belloff (Belloff)
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Post Number: 198
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 67.85.191.150
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Well, I see that one of our very own was the winner.

The lack of a certificate definitely affects the price. How much these days is hard to say. A very clean example with the WRONG certificate sold for $4800 recently. I was surprised to say the least. I am sure it would have been less without any cert at all, as weird as that sounds.

Anyway, it's just rare that I see one with no cert, and this one clearly had other issues so it's not easy to quantify the lack of cert as a factor in selling price.

As far as the non-compressor examples, I think rarity is trumped here by the fact that the single most significant feature of the 370/12RM, it's raison d'etre, if you will, is the circuit. If I'm buying, I'd take off 20-25% for no E1 circuit.

I am curious to see what will happen with the GC McGuinn....but it will probably just be trotted out there at $4495 forever, until some desperate soul pulls the trigger.
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Don Adamek (Rick12dr)
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Post Number: 547
Registered: 04-2002
Posted From: 152.163.101.6
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

One of my buddies has # 6, No compressor in it.So what difference in price between compressor vs non?And, allowing for the fact that the "Janglebox" is now available, and by all reports, it smokes the built in comp. in the RMs...opinions?
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Brian Rodger (Brian)
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Post Number: 312
Registered: 05-2003
Posted From: 66.183.117.177
Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2005 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Well I don't know, but the compressor unit itself went for $760 in this auction.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41439&item=3772208714&rd=1
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Steve Lasko (Janglebox)
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.48.245.125
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Ric12Dr wrote: "One of my buddies has # 6, No compressor in it.So what difference in price between compressor vs non?And, allowing for the fact that the "Janglebox" is now available, and by all reports, it smokes the built in comp. in the RMs...opinions?"

As best I can tell, we (JangleBox) have had no effect on the valuation of RMs in the least. Which is fine by me, as that was never our intention to begin with.

I love my RM (#736) -- it's beautiful, and the neck feels the best of all of my 5 Ric 12-strings. But, heretical as this may be, the pickups are really pretty muddy. I never noticed for the first 7 or 8 years I owned it, but once I had the pickups moded on another 370-12, the difference between it and my RM was dramatic.

The difference is even more pronounced with my 360-12CW. In all candor, the most clean, accurate, Byrdsy-sounding chime I get is with my 360-12CW played through a JangleBox.
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Graham Griffiths (8mileshigh)
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Post Number: 171
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 82.163.189.40
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I'd go along with that Steve! Still love that little box!