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paul wilczynski (Jingle_jangle)
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Username: Jingle_jangle

Post Number: 1654
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 63.193.9.8
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Some sort of gentleman's secret, GG?

It was fascinating to watch it for days, and not a peep from anybody here.

Seriously, Graham, I'm sure all the hardcore folks are already aware and making their bids, judging from the bidding record.

Watch out for snipers, guys and gals...
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Graham Griffiths (8mileshigh)
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Username: 8mileshigh

Post Number: 218
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 62.164.177.32
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I live in London - tell me about it!! I'm willing to move to Santa Ana and re-train as an acoustic maker! or just make the coffee?
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Chris Pappas (Beatlefan)
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Post Number: 2551
Registered: 05-2003
Posted From: 65.40.69.176
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

John S.

Same here! As you may know, I live in Williamsport MD. which is around 40 miles north of you. When we built in '00 there were only a couple of houses in our developement....now there are quite a few and property values have skyrocketed!! I'm actually thinking of selling in a few years....I swore this was my last house, too! lol!!

I wonder if I can avoid capital gains if I sell my house and "invest" my $$$ on a few 4005'6's??
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paul wilczynski (Jingle_jangle)
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Username: Jingle_jangle

Post Number: 1658
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 63.193.9.8
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Well, somehow, John's post got shelved. I used to live in Charlottesville, about 100 miles W. of DC. Same problem with prices. You have to get to somewhere like the middle of Iowa to get any value in real estate these days.

(Now somebody's going to post their middle-of-Iowa story...)
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Corey Keller (Coreyk)
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Username: Coreyk

Post Number: 6
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 63.249.22.11
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I'm one of those people who moved away from an expensive part of CA (SF Bay Area) for a more affordable place to live and better opportunities-in this case, Seattle, which is really getting expensive too! I understand what John H is talking about. My parents reside in Santa Cruz, where the average single family home is nearly $600,000.

Also, I am an apprentice acoustic Luthier working alongside some really stellar craftspeople, both male and female- folks like Michael Gurian, Rob Girdis, Brent McElroy, and my own mentor, Cat Fox.
All of them, for example, understand production and consistency requirements as well as they do one-off work.
It occurs to me that it may be possible to take up your slack by offering an incentive to a qualified luthier team to build the RIC acoustics under contract, like Gibson did with it's association with Richard Schneider in the 70s-there was never any question about how well made those guitars were, and time has proved the handmade ones to be exemplary in construction and playability.(NOT the Kasha-derived factory Mark series-we all know how bad they were.)
It doesn't cost much to fly someone in for a day to handpick woods; and it would be easy to have timber shipped to ther facility for resawing, final seasoning, etc. Specs are easy to program into a CAD machine, too, and lots of folks are getting those since they are coming down so much in price...

Just a few thoughts.


Corey K
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Neil MacLellan (Mac)
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Post Number: 36
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 141.209.97.213
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

WOW WOW WOW. Thanks for the pics Bill! It's too bad that I can't order one right now but I'm sure that RIC will find a way to produce more of these beautiful instruments. I would order one it JetGlo like that one at NAMM. Amazing!
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paul wilczynski (Jingle_jangle)
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Post Number: 1660
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 63.193.9.8
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Chris, you used to be able to do this, up until the new taxation rules came up in 1981. I had collections for this reason, and had to get rid of them and put the money into real estate and bonds.
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Karl Teten (Karl_teten)
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Username: Karl_teten

Post Number: 29
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 24.10.40.97
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Bill, that is a beautiful guitar!

I too would love to see a solution regarding the luthier shortage in the So. CA area.

Maybe a small 'custom shop' contracted from somewhere.

The shortage of medical staff is alarming here in California due to the rising cost of living.

I just completed an assignment at Stanford Hospital due to everyone moving away. I move to La Jolla next week for the same reason.

It's going to get worse.
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John Hall (Johnhall)
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Post Number: 930
Registered: 01-2003
Posted From: 68.5.231.238
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Contract out? Shudders! No way, thank you.
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Carey Biorkman (Biznork)
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 71.104.192.89
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

California has got to be the least business-friendly state in the country. I live in Ventura Co., and if I wasn't involved in my family business I would be out of here in a heartbeat.