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paul wilczynski (Jingle_jangle)
Senior Member Username: Jingle_jangle
Post Number: 1787 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 24.23.164.148
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 02:57 am: |
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Jeff, I think you are referring to vibrato systems. There is nothing like a Strat vibrato or a real dive bomber like a properly-set-up Floyd Rose for nasty metal. I personally find Gibsons to be the least flexible of all the ones you've mentioned. (Except for the old low-impedance ones!) In general, though, most brands have "their" traditional specialty sounds. |
   
Dean Mentjes (Dean712)
Senior Member Username: Dean712
Post Number: 194 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.220.203.70
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 05:07 am: |
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Carey - I actually do read that magazine, I am a subscriber. However... I have been a subscriber for years, because I used to be a rhythm guitarist in a band (I am primarily a bassist), and the transcriptions are quite helpful. I keep a library of those things in my basement. I will look for the copy with the Ric 660 review and post something soon. |
   
Jeff Ulmer (Jeff_ulmer)
Senior Member Username: Jeff_ulmer
Post Number: 628 Registered: 01-2003 Posted From: 209.52.203.85
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 02:17 pm: |
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Paul, yes I am talking about vibrato systems (we call them tremolo here). I use Floyds pretty much exclusively, since they are about the only system that will stay in tune with heavy abuse. They don't sound like the Fender vibrato either, different mechanics. All my Gibsons are hard tails, and are very good at what they do, but again, they all sound and feel differently, which is why I keep them. |
   
Brian Rodger (Brian)
Senior Member Username: Brian
Post Number: 325 Registered: 05-2003 Posted From: 66.183.117.177
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 02:37 pm: |
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What about the 650 series with the High Performance vibrato system ? |
   
paul wilczynski (Jingle_jangle)
Senior Member Username: Jingle_jangle
Post Number: 1793 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 63.193.9.8
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 02:40 pm: |
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Jeff, there has been lots of confusion between vibrato and tremelo, which unfortunately has been perpetuated by manufacturers themselves at times. Sorry to hear that "over there" you use tremelo to mean vibrato. Vibrato is a pitch change. Tremelo is a volume change. |
   
Peter McCormack (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 3439 Registered: 04-2003 Posted From: 142.166.105.220
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 03:20 pm: |
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I know what you mean Paul. I am glad you set the record straight. The American Heritage dictionary offers the following definition of vibrato. quote:Vibrato - "A tremulous or pulsating effect produced in an instrumental or vocal tone by minute and rapid variations in pitch."
If we can have a "tremulous vibrato" does a "vibrating tremelo" also exist? Possibly as the American Heritage definition of tremelo is as follows. quote:Tremelo - "Vocal vibrato especially an excessive or poorly controlled one."
I guess this pretty much sorts things out.
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Dave Westheimer (Dave4004)
Senior Member Username: Dave4004
Post Number: 1152 Registered: 06-2002 Posted From: 69.91.31.135
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 09:24 pm: |
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Silence Is Golden, Peter.  |
   
paul wilczynski (Jingle_jangle)
Senior Member Username: Jingle_jangle
Post Number: 1805 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 63.193.9.8
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 09:32 pm: |
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The American Heritage definition comes from/refers to classical voice definition and is most often used by opera critics. |
   
Carey Biorkman (Biznork)
Junior Member Username: Biznork
Post Number: 21 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 71.104.192.89
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 10:43 pm: |
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Rickenbacker advertises fairly regularly in Guitar World Magazine. |
   
Jeff Ulmer (Jeff_ulmer)
Senior Member Username: Jeff_ulmer
Post Number: 629 Registered: 01-2003 Posted From: 209.52.203.85
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 01:34 am: |
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I'm not "over here". According to the many definitions available, either word is suitable to describe the effect. I have yet to see a definition of tremolo that has anything to do with amplitude. My tremolo use is hardly minute in its pitch variations.  |