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paul wilczynski (Jingle_jangle)
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Post Number: 2168
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 63.193.9.8
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Dan, light is light and dark is dark...I do agree though that it's highly subjective. But the difference between "light gunmetal blue" and the nearly black of Melissa's 330 is a difference of words, not perception, I think.

Sorry to be such a stickler, but when I read "light gunmetal blue" I visualized a silver blue with a gray tinge. If you had said "deep midnight blue" I would have seen what Melissa ended up posting!
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Dan Brookes (Fireglo330)
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Post Number: 140
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 130.76.32.15
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Paul, The body of the 330 is not illuminated enough to reflect the true shade. Just look at the tailpiece. I can't see the edges of the tailpiece clearly. The guitar I saw at Truetone Music was far from black.
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paul wilczynski (Jingle_jangle)
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Post Number: 2169
Registered: 12-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

OK, Dan, it's "light gunmetal blue".
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Dan Brookes (Fireglo330)
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Post Number: 141
Registered: 03-2005
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I should have taken my camera.
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Ken Joseph (Ken_j)
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Post Number: 437
Registered: 07-2003
Posted From: 69.209.154.171
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I beleive that the later Midnight Blue has the silver base coat,at least from recent built guitars I've seen. Or has it changed once again? Here is another shot of MB from '87. Note this is a hard color to capture on film. It looks brighter outside or with a flash and deep blue with a purplish hue in dimmer light just like the sky on a clear night. I beleive this is the same as Mellissa's 330. She captured it better though.
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Ken Joseph (Ken_j)
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Post Number: 438
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Another shot. Looks darker here.
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J. Oliver Bryan (Rumbush)
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Post Number: 60
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 67.120.9.99
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Nobody responded to my post but I did see the guitar in question. The lighting conditions may have affected the perception of the appearance of the guitar, but it is indeed MID. It's not gunmetal, but because of the lighting in the store the finish does not appear very dark either.
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Dan Brookes (Fireglo330)
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Post Number: 142
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 130.76.32.15
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

J. Oliver, Had you seen that particular shade of midnight blue before? When I was at the store the guitar was on the bottom row and to the right of the other RICs.
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Dan Brookes (Fireglo330)
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Post Number: 144
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I should have posted a disclaimer stating my interpretation of RIC guitar color is not meant to be athoritative in any way shape or form.
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J. Oliver Bryan (Rumbush)
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Post Number: 61
Registered: 10-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Dan, all I can say is that the guitar does appear "lighter" than other MID RICs I've seen. I do think the lighting is, at the very least, partly partly responsible for the apparent difference. It's definitely MID, no question in my mind.

Sort of tangentially, sensory perception necessarily varies from one human to another. With that, as Paul W. astutely noted, trying to convert our perceptions of colours into words is a tough gig. We could discuss this forever and never finally agree on the question of is it or isn't it MID. There is variation in fireglo and other burst finishes, why not allow for some in MID?