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Steve Carsello (Steverok)
Senior Member Username: Steverok
Post Number: 114 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 209.214.20.173
| | Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 01:47 am: |
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Hey gang, I was thinking of putting a trapeze tail piece on my 360-12VP FG, to give it more of a vintage look and distinction apart from my other Ric's, but also, I have heard the re-stringing is easier. Can anyone comment on this? It looks like the holes are big enough so that the strings could still fall out while re-stringing. Is it as good as the R tail piece, in terms of maintaining tone, tune, and intonation? I am also worried about having two strings per slot. That seems precarious. |
   
Dale Bruce Fortune (Dale_fortune)
Senior Member Username: Dale_fortune
Post Number: 176 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 67.189.65.67
| | Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 03:46 am: |
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Get the vintage trapeze tail piece. Retro looking and so much easier to change strings. |
   
Anthony Carey (Tony_carey)
Senior Member Username: Tony_carey
Post Number: 667 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 81.157.120.116
| | Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 06:05 am: |
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The trapeze works great with 2 strings per slot & the holes are not big enough for the strings to fall out. This is a personal thing, but I think that a trapeze on a 360 would look quite odd, as they were never made to have one (although I was told that you could special order it). If the 360 is a modern 24 fret model, then I think it would look even odder IMO. |
   
paul wilczynski (Jingle_jangle)
Senior Member Username: Jingle_jangle
Post Number: 2216 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 67.180.37.56
| | Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 08:13 am: |
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And there you have it, Steve. Oregon vs. Devon in a playoff match not to be missed. Both with brief, well-considered, and succinct distillations of the two polar views on trapeze tailpieces! Where does that leave you, however? My guess is...still worried. |
   
J.C. Gaskins (Loverickbass)
Senior Member Username: Loverickbass
Post Number: 366 Registered: 07-2002 Posted From: 152.163.101.6
| | Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 09:34 am: |
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BTW, you have to drill new holes for the trapeze. That could mean trouble later if you want to go back to the "R". Cole |
   
Peter McCormack (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 3696 Registered: 04-2003 Posted From: 142.166.105.220
| | Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 10:03 am: |
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Excellent point Cole. After you restring your 12 string with the trapeze, however, I doubt that you will go back. I also have found the trapeze to be less susceptible to shifting from side to side. Much easier and quicker when replacing a broken string under gig pressure too! |
   
Steve Carsello (Steverok)
Senior Member Username: Steverok
Post Number: 115 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 136.182.2.221
| | Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 10:22 am: |
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Yes, I hate to drill new holes into the guitar, but, if you never plan to go back, then it shouldn't matter. I think I can just drill the top ones, and if I ever decide to back back to the R, the new holes wouldn't show. Anthony, I saw a picture of a 370/12VP 24-fret, with trapeze tail piece, it looks great ! |
   
Peter McCormack (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 3697 Registered: 04-2003 Posted From: 142.166.105.220
| | Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 10:39 am: |
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That is right Steve. You really don't have to go all hog or none on this change. |
   
Steve Carsello (Steverok)
Senior Member Username: Steverok
Post Number: 116 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 136.182.2.221
| | Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 10:53 am: |
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This guitar already has a few vintage touches already - reshaped TRC, rounded pickguard edges, toasters, etc., even though it's a new guitar. A Ric expert told me the best way to re-string a 12 on the trapeze is to insert one string from beneath the trapeze hole, and the other from above the trapeze hole, that way, they won't get all mangled together. Do y'all do it this way ? |
   
Anthony Carey (Tony_carey)
Senior Member Username: Tony_carey
Post Number: 668 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 81.157.120.116
| | Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 10:58 am: |
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What, a 24 fret with a trapeze AND toasters..... I know we're all different, but I find that look firmly in no mans land...not vintage & not modern, a sort of mish mash of ideas. A trapeze with a large headstock? (not so obvious on the 12's admittetdly). I find the 360WB to be the same. However, I must stress that this is only my feeling, but I can actually see nothing really wrong with any of it...if it works, then do it! I put vintage knobs on everything, so I'm guilty myself of breaking my own rules! A good idea though to only use two screws. If you do it, then please post a pic, I'd love to eat my words! |