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Geoffrey Lawton (Golfo)
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Post Number: 58
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 24.61.21.170
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

heh folks.
well - i'm really enjoying my 2 new ricks (360/6 vp and 330/12). i've once again decided to sell the the only humbucker guitar i own (a wonderful tele deluxe reissue from fender mim). i just can't get used to the muddiness of humbuckers (i've bought and sold about 6 'buckier-equipped gits up to now - i like the bridge pup on the tele but i don't like the combo or neck pup). i've read that the rick humbuckers are clean and clear - more along the lines of a single-coil sound than a humbucker sound. this sounds like i might like it. however - is it TOO much like my single coil ricks to make it worth having? will it add a dimension that i might find useful? i play mostly blues, country, and some classic rock.
thanks
geoff
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Ethan Jones (Beefandbones)
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Post Number: 226
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 63.164.145.198
Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2005 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Well, a 650 is going to be quite a bit different than either of the Ricks that you have currently, so I wouldn't worry about sonic overlap!

It's a funny proposition trying to talk someone who doesn't like humbuckers into a humbucker equipped guitar... So here goes: I can't think of a better axe for blues, country and classic rock than a 650.

I think it's important to approach a 650 without preconceived notions about what it's going to resemble. It's not going to sound like your 360 vp, or a Tele, or a Strat, or an SG, or a Les Paul. It can twang, it can bend, it can snarl, it can sing, but it's really it's own machine.

Although the pickups are 'single coil voiced' they are not single coils. There is still a little darkness that's just going to be inherent in any humbucker as compared to the sparkly, buzzy single coil sound. But it does give you a great basic tone that you can easily play around with. Clean, you can get a muscly twangy sound at the bridge, or a fat jazzy sound at the neck. But it also takes to pedals really well, and the humbuckers love a little dirt - fuzz, overdrive, whatever. On mine, the neck pickup sounds huge - and it's something about that position, too, because I've changed pickups on the guitar before (to toasters) and the neck pickup still sounded huge with toasters. But I'm back to the humbuckers with no regrets.

I've played mine through a Vox AC-15, a Marshall stack, a Fender Deluxe, and a Champ, and I think it mine sounds great on each of them - but the thing is, the amp really affects the way the guitar sounds. In a good way. I've found that if you boost the treble setting on your amp, the pickups will sound a little more like single coils.

Versatile, well made, a good value, and you don't see them on stage every day.

But that's just my opinion...
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Ken Joseph (Ken_j)
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Post Number: 464
Registered: 07-2003
Posted From: 198.208.223.35
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Pick of the Ricks has a 650C MB and a 650C FG in stock right now.
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Bob Young (Rictified)
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Post Number: 4776
Registered: 04-2003
Posted From: 151.203.39.223
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

OK, buy one now, today, just do it, don't think, just go down right now and order one, there don't you feel better now?
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Ken Joseph (Ken_j)
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Post Number: 466
Registered: 07-2003
Posted From: 69.209.151.195
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I just talked with Chris at Pick of the Ricks. The Monty Brn one is $1179 shipped and the Fireglo one is $979. He will have both at the Colombus show this weekend. These won't last long. These are at old pricing since the were purchased/ordered prior to April.
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Stan Castles (Buzfluhart)
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Post Number: 669
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 67.65.239.12
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 05:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

A couple of rare 'C's' indeed. Take the plunge.
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Geoffrey Lawton (Golfo)
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Post Number: 59
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 24.61.21.170
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

the fireglo looks very cool.
thanks for the advice, folks.
geoff
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Geoffrey Lawton (Golfo)
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Post Number: 60
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Posted From: 24.61.21.170
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

ethan
btw - that's quite a strong rec for the 650 considering my playing style. going to have to go for one, i think.

anyone like the straight walnut finish?

geoff
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Ethan Jones (Beefandbones)
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Post Number: 227
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 206.63.252.74
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Cool! I hope you like yours as much as I like mine!

Actually, my 650 is a "D" model, and I like the oil finish a lot. It needs some maintenance now and then, like sanding off the finger dirt, and reapplying the oil, but other than that it's good to go. I think it's a good looking guitar - the only aesthetic thing I have a problem with is the chrome guard, but it photographs well on the stage.

I don't think I mentioned before that the neck is much thicker and wider than the 330/360s that you're used to. More akin to a Les Paul crossed with a Strat.
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David Eastwood (Eatswodo)
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Post Number: 201
Registered: 04-2002
Posted From: 12.1.222.226
Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Mine's the Dakota also - oiled walnut. I love the way it looks and feels - it's almost soft to the touch.

There's really no good reason not to buy one, Geoff.