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Mark Revel (Mark_revel)
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Post Number: 1
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 68.216.187.22
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I am a lurker that is making his first post here. I have played guitar for 25 years & have played Gibsons almost exclusively on the electric side but as of late I have really been into the single coil world.
Anyway, I gig every week at church in our praise band & I may play some blues dates as well. Classic rock too. I need a versatile Rick. This is absolutely key. The gitfiddle must be able to do a lot of styles & tones.

So which is better? Do the humbuckers get the famous jingle as well as getting fat? Are the 620 Hi-gains suitable for a semi-fat tone if needed?
Can the 620 dial in a wide range?
How about the Dakota?

Are the neck differences that big?

Pros & cons please. I need help choosing my first Rick!

Hard to find one just to try out...

Your opinions are needed.

Mark Revel
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Anthony Carey (Tony_carey)
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Post Number: 714
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 81.157.61.220
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Hi Mark, welcome to the forum. Being a Gibbo player, you would undoubtedly feel more at home with the 650. The wider neck would feel more comfy for you & the Ric humbuckers are suprisingly versatile.
The 620 has a narrower neck & hi-gain pickups, which IMO are very versatile, but it depends what you are used to.
Seeing as you're used to Gibsons, I would go for a 650.....BUT, the hi-gains do give more of a single coil, classic Ric sound. I know it's hard, but try to find one to try, as I think either would give you a great sound!
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Mark Revel (Mark_revel)
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Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 68.216.187.41
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

The last few years I've been playing a "power Tele Valley Arts set-up Korean copy that has a wide (exactly the same as a 650) D-shaped neck that is incredibly fast. The neck isn't thick at all. I have really become enamored of the middle strat & bridge tele pups as well as the fat neck bucker. But the guitar is not cutting the mustard for serious playing.
So I like single-coils too...it is hard to describe what tones I want...I need it to be REALLY PRETTY when needed & yet be able to really rock too. Maybe the Hi-Gains will do it.
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Anthony Carey (Tony_carey)
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Post Number: 715
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 81.157.61.204
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 06:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post

The hi-gains do it for me Mark, but on the thinline 330 shape gtrs, which seem to give that little bit of extra tone & depth over a solid body.
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Anthony Carey (Tony_carey)
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Post Number: 716
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 06:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post

If you want to know what they sound like Mark, then go to www.therampantcarnivores.com & download a couple of snippets from my album.
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Ken Ford (Kenf)
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 4.158.132.205
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Mark, you may want to check out a 660 while you're at it - 620 cosmetics with that comfy 650 width neck!

(A vote for the Dakota.)
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Ken Joseph (Ken_j)
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Post Number: 478
Registered: 07-2003
Posted From: 198.208.223.35
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Hi Mark, Welcome!

One thing to keep in mind is that all Rick pickups have the same footprint and screw pattern. If you perfer a 650 and want high gains or toasters it is an easy and reversable mod. The same holds true for a 620 or 660.
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Gary Clauson (Doctorwho)
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Post Number: 1535
Registered: 06-2002
Posted From: 64.168.183.122
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Tony said:

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... Being a Gibbo player, you would undoubtedly feel more at home with the 650. ...



I disagree only because my 1967 Gibson ES-335TDC has an incredibly thin/small neck which is more like RIC necks.
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Anthony Carey (Tony_carey)
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Post Number: 720
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 81.157.61.204
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Good point Gary. I knew a guitarist who had an SG with a super slim neck.

I suppose that on average though, the modern Gibsons do have a slightly fatter, wider neck....
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Christopher Hackett (Shochu_brother)
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 05-2005
Posted From: 68.198.23.135
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

True about Gibson necks...they've come in a huge variety over the years from super slim to baseball bats. I guess when speaking of Gibson's, you have to clarify which type of neck you prefer.

I have funky early 70's SG with front loaded controls and a Les Paul style pickguard. I picked it up about 15 years ago for $185. It has a beautiful small, low profile neck - closer to my 620 or Fender Jaguar than a typical "modern" Gibson.