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Mark Revel (Mark_revel)
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 68.216.187.41
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I guess I will go to KC & try a 620 & if I like it, I'll buy it as I don't know when or if any 650s are gonna come this way anytime soon.

Will the Hi-Gains accept drive nicely & distort warmly? Do they compare somewhat to a Tele or Strat when overdriven?

I will overdrive when playing blues...for instance, just tonight after my church praise team finished rehearsal, we launched into an extended blues jam. Will the 620 work for this?

I play through a Line 6 POD so I can dial in any amp tone & cab I want. Incidentally, I usually end up with the AC-30 Top Boost modeled.
Or an old Fender Champ or Deluxe. Occasionally a JC-120.
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Noel Christian Riddell (Longhouse)
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Post Number: 277
Registered: 04-2003
Posted From: 65.80.8.236
Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 01:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post

A 620 will chime and grind nicely, Mark. I will say this: a 650 has a warmer, chunkier distortion -but a more generic (if only ever so SLIGHT) clean tone than a 620. Over all, a 650 is probably more versatile, but both models are fine instruments.

Another factor to consider is tailpiece. The 620 has an R, the 650 is a modern, string-through (bridge/t.p.). Sustain is different on the models...

Best of luck!

Noel
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Carey Biorkman (Biznork)
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Post Number: 25
Registered: 02-2004
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 01:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Another thing to consider are the laquered fretboard and tiny frets on the 620. If you are wanting to play the blues, this may cause you some difficulty in bending strings. Then again, I have seen many here say that this doesn't pose a problem for them.
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Noel Christian Riddell (Longhouse)
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Post Number: 278
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 01:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Lacquer = EASY bends
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Carey Biorkman (Biznork)
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Post Number: 26
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Tiny frets= HARD bends IMHO
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Carey Biorkman (Biznork)
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 02:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Don't get me wrong. I love my 660, but the fretboard definately took some getting used to. I think that if one is used to playing Gibsons, the 650 may be easier to adjust to.
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Mark Revel (Mark_revel)
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I assume the 650 sustains longer due to the string-through-body bridge. Is this correct?
The guiitar I'm currently playing has a laquered neck which I like, but big frets so bending is easy.

Noel, when you say the Hi-Gains "grind" nicely, I assume you mean with distortion, right?

I was hoping to compare these to a Gibson Blueshawk Saturday, but the 'Hawks just sold out..

Mark
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Patrick Magee (Oreca)
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Post Number: 346
Registered: 03-2004
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Mark, the Hi-Gain's are fine for bluesy tones.
It might take awhile for you to find the perfect settings but they can surely play the blues.

I can't really comment on the sound compared to other guitars since I don't own any other...

The neck pickup (and the middle one since I have a 370) has so many different achievable tones because of the fifth knob. It's a bit difficult to explain but when the knob is completly clockwise you get softer cleaner tones, and when you crank it completly counter-clockwise you get a louder, distorted (depending on the amp settings), warm tone.
It's very different from say a Strat from what I've heard of them on records and all that.

Oh, and the bridge pickup can get a whole different set of sounds, sounds almost Les Paul-ish, but still very different, not as tiny and scratchy.

I found that turning the tone completly down on the bridge pickup and adding a little gain on the amp will get a creamy type tone that is still useable. Of course other people may not think the same.

Anyways hope this post isn't too much blah blah blah.
I just finished drinking my two cups of coffee's in my Ric forum mug. :-)
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Peter McCormack (Admin)
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Post Number: 3782
Registered: 04-2003
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Patrick: I love to hear Rickenbacker "blah blah" and "gah gah." Hopefully my baby talk is over for the day.
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Anthony Carey (Tony_carey)
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Registered: 10-2004
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2005 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Mark, the hi-gains are superb with overdrive, as are the older 'hot' toasters. Not so convinced about the 7.4 scatterwounds.....