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Peter Levett (Leftyguitars)
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Username: Leftyguitars

Post Number: 199
Registered: 02-2005
Posted From: 195.93.21.2
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Hey Graham, how did you get your photos to go round the corner?
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Gary Clauson (Doctorwho)
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Post Number: 1487
Registered: 06-2002
Posted From: 66.229.61.99
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 03:36 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Here (finally) are the pictures of the inside of my transformer:

Brody transfomer inside 1 Brody transformer 2

Graham, it is my opinion that yours is actually a Type 2, as the bulbs are not like mine (mine has a JH [!] date code, August 1970, which predates yours) and that it has been modified at least a little (the jack for the transformer should be a DIN jack like this:

331LS DIN jack
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Graham Griffiths (8mileshigh)
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Post Number: 304
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 62.164.179.131
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 04:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Thanks Gary - mine has the bulbs with 2 pins at the base which push into the board. Do you know where I can source these from?
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Gary Clauson (Doctorwho)
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Post Number: 1490
Registered: 06-2002
Posted From: 64.168.183.122
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Sorry, I don't. You might try Newark Electronics' website and see if you can match it up with a currently available bulb. I think this link gets you to a 'bulb search' page:

http://www.newark.com/NewarkWebCommerce/newark/en_US/endecaSearch/searchPage2.jsp?x=2&OrgTT=bulb&newSearch=true&Nty=1&N=1000104+4&y=7&=gensearch&No=0&Ntt=bulb&Ntk=gensearch&comSearch=true
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Graham Griffiths (8mileshigh)
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Username: 8mileshigh

Post Number: 305
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 62.164.178.176
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 04:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Thanks Gary
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John Hall (Johnhall)
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Post Number: 991
Registered: 01-2003
Posted From: 64.105.135.123
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Graham's is most certainly a "Type One" model. His power supply appears genuine, except that the low voltage cable, plug and socket have been replaced.

The DIN plug and socket on these was a fairly obscure one, difficult to match exactly.

The power supplies on these are both 18 volts but the type One didn't require as much current and the connections were on different pins to preclude using the incorrect supply. However, it's easy to make a universal supply by choosing a transformer that's capable of delivering a minimum of about 30 watts, connecting one side to pin 5 of the DIN plug and the other side to pins 1 and 4.

The originals did not have a fuse and the input diodes probably provided a rudimentary fuse function, but it certainly would be cheap insurance to put a fuse on both the input and output side of the circuit.
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Graham Griffiths (8mileshigh)
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Username: 8mileshigh

Post Number: 307
Registered: 11-2003
Posted From: 62.164.182.21
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Thanks Mr H.
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John Minutaglio (Jsm610)
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Post Number: 199
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 66.135.163.170
Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Thanks much to all. I now have everything working.

The 'new' transformer box, total cost was about $15:
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Go figure, you get the right power into this thing and it lights up, and now the dimmer knob actually does something.
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Howard Bishop (Ozover50)
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Post Number: 1214
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 220.240.241.114
Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post

That's a great result, John. We now know that the lights work, so how does it play? Are the lights distracting at all?
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Kenny Howes (Kennyhowes)
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Username: Kennyhowes

Post Number: 775
Registered: 04-2002
Posted From: 64.105.135.123
Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

FWIW, my 331 plays like The Truth, baby - really slim neck and great for any style.

The lights aren't the least bit distracting.