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Larry Carroll (Eggman)
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Username: Eggman

Post Number: 30
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 65.0.24.7
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Howdy,

I've read a few posts about a re-designed Rickenbacker headstock. Can someone please fill me in?

Respectfully,
Larry Carroll
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Jeffrey Scott (Jps)
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Username: Jps

Post Number: 3442
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 65.43.179.213
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I think those posts were refering to the new 12 string headstock where the channels go all the way through the headstock.
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Anthony Carey (Tony_carey)
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Post Number: 779
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 81.157.59.212
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

You can check it out on Rics site.... http://www.rickenbacker.com/us/new_hs.htm
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Dale Bruce Fortune (Dale_fortune)
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Post Number: 287
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 67.189.65.67
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Larry this was 1st done in the late 60's but never put into production. Dick Burke was in charge of this design.
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Ken Joseph (Ken_j)
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Username: Ken_j

Post Number: 490
Registered: 07-2003
Posted From: 69.209.139.126
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Here is one like that from '87 on a Tuxedo.
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Peter McCormack (Admin)
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Post Number: 3959
Registered: 04-2003
Posted From: 142.166.105.230
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

This is a great idea from an aesthetic and practical point of view. I also understand that there may be somewhat greater sustain with this design, although I confess to not understanding why that may be so.
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Karl Teten (Karl_teten)
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Post Number: 108
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 66.74.192.126
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I think it's kind of like a Martin guitar with Grovers vs Sta-Tites. The larger tuners are like 6 little tone-sucking C-clamps. Maybe the loss of the extra wood will help like that.

IMO the lightest tuner would need to be used as well on this new design for maximum sound.
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Jeffrey Scott (Jps)
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Post Number: 3448
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 65.43.179.213
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

What do you mean by the larger tuners? I believe all the tuners are the same.
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Karl Teten (Karl_teten)
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Username: Karl_teten

Post Number: 109
Registered: 04-2005
Posted From: 66.74.192.126
Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 02:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I was talking about old style Grovers vs vintage Sta-Tites. Martin pre-war HD28 players swear by using light tuners for maximum tone on reissue models.

Martin players have gotten great tone results by swapping out large stock tuners for vintage reissue tuners.

Some Martin players swear by the tuners going only in a certain direction (backwards).
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Dale Bruce Fortune (Dale_fortune)
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Post Number: 291
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 67.189.65.67
Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 03:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Here's a little tought on this tone sucking logic. Musicial instruments rely on vibration to achieve their sound. Have you ever looked under various automobiles and seen a thing that looks like an arm with a piece of metal attached to it? Some are called harmonic balancers, some are vibration dampers. What they do is soak up the vibrations made by the engine or trans or some other moving part on your vehicle. The thought behind the headless Bass was to increase sustain and eleminate those unwanted dead spots like the Eflat on the A string of your P-Bass. I know as others that the smaller less dense metal tuners work best for max. tone and sustain.