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Larry Carroll (Eggman)
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Username: Eggman

Post Number: 85
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 65.0.20.180
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Howdy,

I've never owned a Rickenbacker acoustic. Since 1997 I HAVE owned a Martin D-28 and it sounds wonderful with it's Rosewood back and sides.
I'm not trying to be contentious with Rickenbacker enthusiasts; I'm ONE of them! I adore the electrics, but I'm intrigued by the relatively new line of beautiful acoustics.
Who here owns Martin and Rickenbacker acoustics?
Can you please compare the two here in terms of tone, playability, et al?

Respectfully,
Larry Carroll

PS: I think Martin and Rickenbacker are the two best guitar makers in the world. Just looking for comparisons on thier acoustics.
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Andrew Gregg (Porge)
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Post Number: 103
Registered: 05-2005
Posted From: 203.220.204.233
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 04:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post

As a three Martin kinda guy ('23 0-18, '76 D-18, '91 000-28 currently, but have had 8 other 'D's), I'm intersted to hear as well...
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Anthony Carey (Tony_carey)
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Post Number: 848
Registered: 10-2004
Posted From: 81.157.57.90
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 06:15 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I don't own either, but I have played both....the Martin on a regular basis & the Ric only twice.

My impressions were that the Martin is the best acoustic that I have ever played, with a fantastic balanced sound & a lovely 'solid' feel about it. However, the Ric suprised me. It was very light (in weight) in comparison, but it had a really beautiful sound & was as easy to play as the Martin. This is purely subjective, but the Rics fireglo finish & superb headstock gave it the edge on looks.

The bottom line is that they are both top notch, world class acoustics that IMO compare very well with each other, but they are different & they feel different too.
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Larry Carroll (Eggman)
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Post Number: 89
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 65.0.24.136
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 07:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Anthony,

Thanks for the honest appraisal. I sure hope this thread grows. Rickenbacker lovers shouldn't feel intimidated; after all, Rickenbacker is the "new kid on the block" compared to Martin(with respect to acoustic guitars)

Larry
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Noel Christian Riddell (Longhouse)
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Post Number: 304
Registered: 04-2003
Posted From: 65.80.8.141
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I A/B'd the Ric Jumbos (maple and rosewood [sides and back])against every Martin, Gibson, Taylor, etc. at Dave's Guitars. The Shasta (?) sounded a bit compressed and quiet, but the Comstock (maple Ric) outclassed them all in playability, detail, versatility, and every other way I could think of. When fingerpicked, the notes bloomed and sparkled. It shimmered and hummed when strummed. I've not forgiven myself for NOT buying it. There were two Lowden guitars there which were maybe the best instruments I've ever used for fingerpicking, but overall, the Ric Comstock was the best in the store.

I have a Gibson J100 and Tacoma Chief, both of which are wonderful guitars -one day I will add a Ric acoustic to the collection.

And consider this: Rickenbacker does NOT use Micarta on their guitars.

Noel
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Larry Carroll (Eggman)
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Post Number: 90
Registered: 06-2005
Posted From: 65.0.24.136
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post

Noel,

Not to take my own thread off on a tangent, but what's wrong with Micarta? I ask because my Martin D-28 has a Micarta nut and saddle! Thanks

Larry
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paul wilczynski (Jingle_jangle)
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Post Number: 2957
Registered: 12-2004
Posted From: 63.193.9.8
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

I'm a bit puzzled, too. Both bakelite and Micarta are tradenames for phenolic.
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Melissa Breitsprecher (Melibreits)
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Post Number: 594
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 216.70.32.56
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

My Ric acoustic is a fireglo Comstock, and Noel is absolutely right about them.... The Comstock has a much brighter sound than a Martin, and has a fabulously percussive and booming tone in the bass notes; very unique-sounding, and absolutely wonderful.
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Noel Christian Riddell (Longhouse)
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Post Number: 305
Registered: 04-2003
Posted From: 68.217.132.17
Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post

Call me a Luddite; I'm just against the use of plastic/bakelite/micarta for bridges, fingerboards, etc.* It's certainly OK for nuts and saddles. Not sure how it will be when these guitars are vintage instruments.
Old fashioned perhaps.
nOel

*I make an exception for the Gretsch Hawaiian with its pearloid fingerboard
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Bill Henshell (Byu)
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Post Number: 215
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 24.15.207.208
Posted on Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post

I have a Ric 700c/12 (solid spruce top & solid maple back & sides) & 730s (solid spruce top & solid rosewood back & sides) and a Martin D15 & D12-1. I can't really compare them tonally since they're all different materials (D15 is solid mahogany, D12-1 is solid spruce top, solid mahogany back & laminate mahogany sides). Makes for good mixing when recording. I can say the workmanship on both is superb. The Rics have better playability. The Martins smell better. All sound fantastic in their own way.
730s
700C
Cheers,
Bill