"On Stage"

rob_mac · Post by **rob_mac** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:09 am

Sheena

I hope one day that your wish to see the searchers live comes true!!!!!

From Rob

sowhat · Post by **sowhat** » Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:47 am

Yeah Rob, i'd also like to hope it comes true - hey, i am an optimist after all and have a lot to go still! Thank you. Maybe next summer... who knows?..

neilhunt · Post by **neilhunt** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:31 am

Did anyone find out whether "On Stage" was really all-new or not?
I have Live III, and despite the so-so production values it's a fun listen, and I'd like more.

In other news, I'm not sure why there'd be a problem with people selling copies on Amazon or elsewhere. Since the CDs all come from the band in the first place, they're still getting their money.

sowhat · Post by **sowhat** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:51 am

As Rob has already stated, most of this material (with the exception of "Seven nights to rock") was released on three "Live" CDs, albeit the versions may be different...
Welcome, BTW!

royclough · Post by **royclough** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:13 am

Neil, apparently the band would not get any money from sales on Amazon,in fact they themselves knew nothing about it be sold commercially till I actually told them.

winston · Post by **winston** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:59 am

That is a sad state of affairs Roy. The music biz can be cruel though, as I very well know.

sowhat · Post by **sowhat** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:17 am

Sad but not so wonderful, at least to me - i'd be, on the contrary, very surprised if the artists got their royalties from records sold at Gorbushka & many other places...

neilhunt · Post by **neilhunt** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:26 am

Hi Sheena... thanks for the welcome (I tried to slip in unnoticed, but I guess that didn't work out).

I guess my question really was whether or not the versions are the same. I wouldn't want to pay for another live album if I already have it, bar one track.

Roy, I agree that the band wouldn't get money if someone sold a used CD on Amazon. My point was that (unless it was a stolen or pirated copy) the band already received their money from the original sale of the CD.

royclough · Post by **royclough** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:15 pm

Neil to clarify I was not referring to used copies, this release"On Stage" appeared for sale on Amazon as a normal release not a marketplace thing. Some other online retailers also advertised the release, my point was that The Searchers knew nothing about it. As far as they were concerned it could only be bought at their gigs.

In answer to your other query the album On Stage has three tracks not on Live 111 Seven Nights to Rock, Love's Melody and It's Too Late. Fine if you want these as live tracks as they do not appear on any other live compilation.

Personally I think these Live CD' have run their course.

ozmag · Post by **ozmag** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:52 pm

Hi on the subject of whether the live CD's have run their course having been at 3 Searchers concerts in Sydney this month and seen the clamour to buy them, I reckon there remains a strong demand to take home the Searchers sound.

Perhaps an acoustic or ballad version could be on the way...

royclough · Post by **royclough** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:27 am

Has to be a demand to take home a reminder of the night or people may simply want to hear the tracks with Spencer James vocals.

To me the Searchers sound are the original recordings. Good to know that based on your comment they are going down well though.

ozmag · Post by **ozmag** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:18 am

I suppose it is an old chesnut the "searchers sound" and been discussed to death but whether it was Curtis/Jackson or Penders vocals on the original recordings 40 years ago, the band is now essentially a live band and the sound for the last 20 years is with Spence singing lead, with the same harmonies as for the last 42 years and John and Frank offering their individual contributions. Ed adding another harmony adds to the overall quality of sound as well.

I assume that what people want is a memory of the concert that they attend.

sowhat · Post by **sowhat** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:43 am

Good points, Michael. I'd also suggest that while original is original, time ticks by, things change and i like the nowadays line-up as much as i like the old one, but in a different way since it's a different band - on the one hand - but it's still the Searchers, on the other hand.
Welcome, BTW!

dbailey62 · Post by **dbailey62** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:32 pm

A quick thought regarding the live CD's, I could handle one more if it were properly mixed as opposed to being pretty much all being straight off the mixer.

BTW, I must say that I'm still a bit suspicious regarding certain things about the live discs such as the clarity of Spencer's voice on It's Too Late while the rest of the track is muffled.

mygeneration · Post by **mygeneration** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:19 pm

I'm sure there was a lot of "cleaning up" taking place on the recordings. Reminds me of a member of the progressive band IQ who told me once that for a live album they released, they recorded the set, stripped out everything except the drums and the crowd noise and went into the studio to record the rest!
Apparently this is quite common with live albums