660-620-Tom Petty

axel · Post by **axel** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 8:17 am

Ok, I'm flush again - now is the time to get to that third Ric.
I need a 12 since the blokes all around tell me I should do this and that and mostly do the chorus with a 12.
Ok with me - so which one?
620-12 would be it but neck a little bit narrow for 6 strings + my fingers, let alone 12 (strings).
I've played a very second hand Tom Petty SE over here but is not available anymore. So, 660? - yep! But what differences between the TP and the 660 - just the SE tag ?
Frets the same as TP/620 ; neck shape, heel the same as 620?
Just a wider neck, checked bindings and toasters/trapeze? If yes, then it's the next one (and the last, cross my heart etc.)
Could anybody tell me more precisely?
thanks a mil'
a.

rick12dr · Post by **rick12dr** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 11:23 am

To nutshell your questions, the 620-12 is basically the same guitar, but with std. 1-5/8"
wide at nut neck, and plain white binding, and more ordinary grained wood.And No stock 12 way bridge.

axel · Post by **axel** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 1:30 pm

So :
a 660 is like my 620 only fancier (bindings, trapeze, wood etc) and with a wider neck, otherwise : same thin frets, same neck shape, same heel - right?

(it's very unlikely I will be able to even see one before ordering it -I live in France you know- that's why I'm asking the questions a zillion times, sorry)

Neck shape and frets are very important to me - I want to feel at home when I switch from one to the other (360>620>6?0). If the frets are jumbos, if the neck shape is that of an old Telecaster (baseball bat/lumberJack), no way.
thanks
axel

rick12dr · Post by **rick12dr** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 6:08 pm

Yes, same frets as 620 on 660.Whether you like the Shape of the back of the neck on the 660-12 is another story. I like the width factor of the 660-12, but I personally think they could have made the back of that neck a bit thinner.Others I've mentioned this to have agreed.

markthemd · Post by **markthemd** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 6:25 pm

Like Tom and Mike?

axel · Post by **axel** » Sun Jul 08, 2001 9:10 pm

ahhhh, there had to be something going the wrong way (for me). Is there really a big difference or is it like, say, the diff. in neck width between 610 and 620?

thanks
axel

david_lopes · Post by **david_lopes** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 12:36 am

It is much bigger. I own a 360 and a 660/6, and the neck is like a baseball bat. Given the thin neck design of "traditional" rics, the 660's neck can take you for a loop at first. Good luck trying to demo one first. I used this page last year, asked around, and but it over the phone. I am delighted, but, it is a risk.

The look is outofsite, the sound is super with the vintage p/us, and the workmanship is super. I would go for the regular case versus the vintage case, because it is sturdier.

Good luck,

dave lopes

axel · Post by **axel** » Mon Jul 09, 2001 1:52 am

right - so the 660 is out, 620-12 is in.
thank you all

axel

360dave660 · Post by **360dave660** » Tue Jul 17, 2001 5:19 am

Axel,

I played through a song list last night at home once through with the 660 and then with the 360. The differnce is remarkable.

I noticed that you live in France also. I live just outside Paris. How about yourself ?

It is somewhat rare to find people here interested in Rics (most are either Fender or Gibson).

Let us know whe you get the 620/12.

David

axel · Post by **axel** » Tue Jul 17, 2001 5:58 am

Yeah, another one!
Nick Allen lives in St.Cloud, I live in Montmartre - how about you ?
Drop me an email and let's meet somewhere.
axel

360dave660 · Post by **360dave660** » Fri Jul 20, 2001 4:39 am

Cool, I sent an email to the address that appeared at the bottom of your screen when I put the cursor over your name, but, I got no answer. My email address is [email protected]. I live in Rueil Malmaison and will be around all summer long.

Hope to meet the both of you someday soon.

Best regards,
Dave

360dave660 · Post by **360dave660** » Tue Nov 27, 2001 8:25 am

Axel,

Did you ever get the 12 string ? Did you have to order it straight off ?

I tried a 360/64 12 in NYC this summer for the first time and it seemed really cool. I am contemplating which one and how best to choose : 620/12 price/thin neck ; 330/12 price but some what wider neck ; 340/12 3-pus- perhaps more byrdsy; carl wilson/12 - blow the bank for nirvana ...

Any information from you or other guys who bought a 12 string after the 6-string would be interesting.

Best regards to all
à +,

David Lopes
Paris, France

axel · Post by **axel** » Tue Nov 27, 2001 1:40 pm

Hi Dave,

nope, I haven't yet bought any other rickie, for 2 reasons:
1. I have been very busy recording all summer/fall,
2. I want my third rick to be exactly as I wish it could be - and I haven't found that rare bird yet, whether new or 2nd hand

...and, after all, a 12 might not be as necessary as all my songs are already filled with harmonies and 'contre-chants'. One more layer would be too much I believe.

But if I get to get one, it'll probably be a regular 360, with the Arnquist nut-spacing mod'. I checked a 660 and a TP recently and the necks are indeed far too chunky for me...

btw, there's a very nice sounding 360-12 fireglo in a shop very close to Universal Guitars, at rue de douai (the said Universal has a second-hand 370RM, also a 360CW I believe).

cheers, good luck in your quest
a