Instock 360/12c63??

admin · Post by **admin** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:59 am

Joe and John: In the balance, it seems to me that Rickenbacker has gone about as far as they can with the 360/12C63. I don't think that we can expect that all pots, wiring, guard material and the like to stay the same over 40 years. Times change and in some cases the newer materials are far better. It still looks like a beauty to me Joe.

johnhall · Post by **johnhall** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 9:09 am

Joe, you're out to lunch here. The tuners ARE nickel. George's DOES have a long pickup magnet slots in the neck position, as did all early production 12 stringers. (Most pickups were later replaced when neck-strengthening blocks were added due to the well known neck set problem.) The plexi is NOT our standard stock but chosen to be as close to the semi-opaque style on the originals, bearing in mind you simply can't buy the original material today. George's has vinyl wire insulation rather than cloth as this was right in the transition period. I'll concede the capacitor issue- there's just nothing like it produced today although I actually did obtain a quote for a true replica. Due to the cost and quantity requirement, it would have raised the cost of the guitars considerably and any way you slice it, capacitance is capacitance.

leftybass · Post by **leftybass** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:47 am

Peter, I agree with you all the way, the new 12 is a beaut...I hope to try one out in the near future, when they circulate a bit more...

joepee · Post by **joepee** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 10:49 am

Breaking news. John Hall does homework!

Great post Mr. Hall.

tonewerks · Post by **tonewerks** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:54 pm

As I said "one weird thing -- The neck pick up is a flat pole-( Expected) but they drilled holes in the body as if it were to be a long pole -" I didn't say it was right or wrong I just said it seemed weird to me -- I agree capacitance is capacitance to -

goldenoldie · Post by **goldenoldie** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:18 pm

John Hall,
Since the 360/12c63 doesn't have the 'neck strengthening blocks' - should we expect the 'well-known neck set problems' eventually? If so, do you recommend tuning down a half-step on these to relieve tension?

johnhall · Post by **johnhall** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:19 pm

No. The instrument is designed to remain at full pitch and tension.

The neck to body pocket is quite different that the originals. You can't see it, just like the modern truss rod system, but it's that way to eliminate any potential problems.

Joe, your sentence was "It gets an 8 for not being 100% historically accurate (non-nickel tuners, non-cloth loom with blue caps, modern plexi, neck pup position drilled for long poles)". Given that 4 of your 5 statements are simply incorrect, doesn't that move our score up closer to 9.6?

tonewerks · Post by **tonewerks** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:25 pm

lol ok, I'll split the difference with you :^}

Just curious how much tension will a neck hold before it snaps and were does it break ?

stuart · Post by **stuart** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:47 pm

It snaps just below the 5th vertebrae

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Awesome guitar. I'd give it a 15 out of 10, and I wont even have mine for atleast a few months.

What a stunning instrument.

qmoder · Post by **qmoder** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:58 pm

Nice. I like the Vintage case too. Wish I had gotten one with my Ric now.

BobKat · Post by **BobKat** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:56 pm

John, I can't wait to see one up close. It looks like you have outdone yourselves.

Now you have to make one in "dead man's rips" color.

bill_yantz · Post by **bill_yantz** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:36 am

John, is the fretboard radius the same? Is there any difference to the string spacing on this one relative to the newer ones.

Thanks in advance for the answers. I can't wait to see and play one in person.

woody · Post by **woody** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:30 am

Hold on Bob. First John needs to produce a run of these in fireglo with dot fret markers and an "f" hole. Any hope of that happening, Mr. Hall?

8mileshigh · Post by **8mileshigh** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:53 am

Add my name to the long list.........

doctorwho · Post by **doctorwho** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:30 am

An in-stock 360/12c63 has shown up on GuitarBase:

http://www.gbase.com/Stores/Gear/GearDetails.aspx?Item=809385

It's at Rudy's Music in New York City.

http://www.rudysmusic.com/