You Am I - Crockenbacker 360Fs

jsm610 · Post by **jsm610** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:42 am

Tim's Crockenbacker 360F's (2 of 4 that he has).

Good copies, never seen a replica of these before:

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 7:59 am

Here are some photos of a gennie 360F for comparison:

I was fooled at first glance, but John clued me in. You can spot some differences: Tailpiece, pickguard, missing catseye sound holes. Also, the binding on Tim's guitars seems a bit thick?

lastbroadcast · Post by **lastbroadcast** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:52 am

Is that a Gretsch tailpiece on the red guitar?

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:55 am

Yup. Good catch.

ozover50 · Post by **ozover50** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:36 am

If they are Replibackers (and it seems the lack of the catseye sound hole is the most glaring thing) then they're not the first 'shonkies' over here - heard of Christopher Skase, Alan Bond, John Elliott??

jsm610 · Post by **jsm610** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:42 am

I'm not sure that is the best reference Paul -> I'm fairly certain that is the prototype and has a few features that are unique and not found on the 'regular' 360Fs - the long soundhole for example....

Here are some pictures of his Crockenbacker 12:

jsm610 · Post by **jsm610** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:47 am

Here are some more pictures of the 'red' Crockenbacker. It certainly has a soundhole... :

What gives it away:
- The headstock is too long and the wrong shape.
- The inlays are 'wrong'
- The angle of the headstock is 'wrong', you can see it in the shot of the back of the headstock.

jsm610 · Post by **jsm610** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:08 pm

For those that can't find the soundhole on the red one:

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:17 pm

Yep, John, you're right again. Proportionally, the red one looks like a Gretsch, but with strange detailing. Wonder who built 'em?

longhouse · Post by **longhouse** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:35 pm

Piers Crocker

jsm610 · Post by **jsm610** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:44 pm

The 6-strigns look right to me. If I hadn't noticed that they were mono and that they didn't have the right TRC I wouldn't have thought twice. The 12 strings have the wrong headstock style of course - wonder where he got the tailpiece on that?

I assume this one isn't fake:

Scastles · Post by **Scastles** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:19 pm

Think the pic you posted is the real deal, John. The checkered binding and the seam white color seems to fit the bill

jwilli · Post by **jwilli** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:25 pm

Yeah, that one is real. Quit rubbing it in!

BTW: Prior to Mid '60, they had single jackplates.

jsm610 · Post by **jsm610** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:37 pm

"Quit rubbing it in!

"

That wasn't rubbing it in, I was just posting a photo...

longhouse · Post by **longhouse** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:03 pm

THAT is rubbing it in!

John Hall, you're my only hope... bring back the 360F. I promise I'll buy one.

360F in blueburst - mmmmmmm

=Noel=