360/12 v.65

242_foxtrot · Post by **242_foxtrot** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:18 pm

Was looking around the web today, and I went to WITH web site. They posted a 360/12 v.65(listed as 330/12 v.65). There is no manufacture year listed. I'm curious to know if maybe this guitar is from a limited run from the mid 80's to early 90's. I know that there were limited edition models(360/12 v.66 & 370/12 v.67)sent to Japan a couple of years ago. This guitar though, seems different from what I've seen posted from the Japan models. The headstock looks like it's from the 80's, like a McGuinn. I have a 1990 381/12 that also has this type of headstock. The fret markers almost look like they are made of crushed pearl. Just wondering if anyone saw this or has ever heard of this model.

BobKat · Post by **BobKat** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:42 am

Link please!

242_foxtrot · Post by **242_foxtrot** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:15 am

http://www.netlaputa.ne.jp/~with/

242_foxtrot · Post by **242_foxtrot** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:19 am

Bob try this link.

lawton · Post by **lawton** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 6:42 am

Direct link to pic: http://www.netlaputa.ne.jp/~with/0330ric36012v65fg.jpg

route66guitars · Post by **route66guitars** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:43 am

Based on the shape of the upper 'horn' this appears to be over-run from the Carl Wilson Limited Edition model.

Sj

Scastles · Post by **Scastles** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:10 am

Believe some models made from '64 to '70 did have crushed pearl inlays, not all.Don't know about reissues though. And on the 360 it's hard to tell what kind of bridge is on it. Can anyone tell for sure?

krick · Post by **krick** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:21 am

I think this guitar is from the 60's. The headstock shape is quite different from the Carl Wilson 12 string models. Also, the price on it is too high for a newer one.

route66guitars · Post by **route66guitars** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:32 am

Sorry, I was basing it on the assupmtion this was a newer instrument.

It does appear to be a 1965 that is substantially 'off model." Note the left channel in the headstock and the general headstock shape. Oops.

Sj

leftybass · Post by **leftybass** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:58 am

IMO the nameplate is not 60's manufacture, it looks like one from a V64, or a Carl Wilson. In other words, 'modern' vintage.

It's easy to see why Scott would say what he did, I'm with him on the shape of the headstock, it sure has the sillouette of a vintage re-issue neck. WITH has had some wacky stuff in the past, this one could be lightly modded to get it closer to original spec....YMMV..

leftybass · Post by **leftybass** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:02 pm

If the pics were better, we could see if it had a 3-piece top....

chronictown · Post by **chronictown** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:17 pm

The size of the headstock routs is a lot wider than those on my CW/12 (or on the 370/12v67 from the same site), which makes me think it's not a v66. Bridge placement doesn't look 60's vintage to me, though....but the price does....

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:46 pm

Um, it is Japan...

chronictown · Post by **chronictown** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:10 pm

I meant expensive compared to their 370/12v67, a guitar which you'd expect would be slightly more expensive if the 360/12 in question was indeed a v66.

Either way, you're right, prices are nuts in Japan and I don't think I'll be doing any guitar shopping in that country any time soon...except of course if they have a limited run of Hello Kitty ricks...

BobKat · Post by **BobKat** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:02 pm

That is very similar to the guitar in the "I Love Rickenbacker 12-strings" book. I would be willing to bet it was part of the same late '80s run, and that it has all '60s features except for checkerboard binding, which was absent on the guitar in the book (I seem to recall the same guitar being in the Rittor book). I would list the serial/year of the guitar in the book but I seem to have misplaced the book in my house for the moment!

I think the 370/12V67 is a fine deal at $2400 and change. I am seriously considering it.