EBay... Two Comments

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:26 pm

The teal colored 360 used in this Spivies video in on sale:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41439&item=7318350623&rd=1

check out the video, its a crackup:

http://www.popvoxmusic.com/spiviesvid.htm

bayoucount4 · Post by **bayoucount4** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:34 pm

Not to hijack this thread too much more, but Xcoyle, you are right. I bought a 68 Tele from CME that was reported to be "all original." Ya, I guess it was, until I removed the pick guard and found a pot replaced. They must have a strange definition of "all original." And man, it was tough getting my money back.

wayang · Post by **wayang** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:28 pm

"All original"...by itself it's a vague enough term that it's not necessarily false...some parts were 'originally' installed on the guitar, and others were 'originally' made in Korea...it's kind of like those pictures of girls in the massage parlor ads at the back of the free paper with the tiny print along the bottom edge that says 'Actual Photo'...yeah, it sure is an actual photo, but of whom?

popster15 · Post by **popster15** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:06 am

I called them one time and asked how a particular guitar played...their response..."all our guitars play well." Very helpful information.

wayang · Post by **wayang** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:55 am

The massage parlors will tell you the same thing...

bayoucount4 · Post by **bayoucount4** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:34 am

Yes, but putting a year and date next to "all original" at least qualifies it to mean all parts from that year.

The vintage guitar market sucks bad. It's very difficult to find an "all original" piece that some idiot hasn't tampered with or isn't trying to sell as "all original" 1968 with pots and a bridge from 1984, etc.

Companies and individuals who do these types of things do a disservice to that particular market by making bogus claims.

Now, in our consumer, commerical society, these things may be okay and they may be standard operating procedures. But, I don't think they're honest, in that the wording of the ads is put together to deliberately mislead.

If I say "all original" 1968 RIC that should mean a RIC that has all the initial parts it was constructed with in 1968.

jcreasy · Post by **jcreasy** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:02 am

True, but if you are shopping in the original guitar market, you are probably sophisticated enough to have them photo the pots and so forth.

Besides, isn't the world of folks buying and trading these things pretty small? Except for the occasional garage sale, I thought that was the case.

JKC

admin · Post by **admin** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:38 am

Interesting comments about integrity here. We live in a cut and paste world in which original thought is becoming a rarity. Folks would rather use the same phrase over and again instead taking the time to say something meaningful. Sadly, the result is that we eventually don't trust statements even when they might apply.

jps · Post by **jps** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:15 am

Speaking of lack of originality and integrity, for your viewing pleasure (not!):

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:52 pm

You get that thing offa Prince?

I've come to this conclusion about our civilation: When people are challenged or when driven by need, creativity flourishes. When people are fat, sassy, content, and lazy, they stagnate and their output suffers.

In this way success can be bad for you.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:55 pm

I meant "civilization." I guess my spelling stagnated there.