What do you think of this???

jwilli · Post by **jwilli** » Wed May 18, 2005 2:10 pm

It was posted on VoxTalks.com earlier today.

BobKat · Post by **BobKat** » Wed May 18, 2005 3:38 pm

Kudos to Mr. Hall, who posted on VT that this guitar's invoice, dated 5/22/1964, describes it as a 360/12 string w/ banjo keys.

We would love to have/see some really high quality pics of this guitar. I know that!

tblair · Post by **tblair** » Wed May 18, 2005 6:45 pm

It did end up selling after Ebay- so better pics may emerge.

Speaking of which, here are better pics of the headstock:

Click Me

karl_teten · Post by **karl_teten** » Thu May 19, 2005 1:21 am

From the 'click me' pics you can see the graft where the original headstock snapped off and the replacement was glued to.

The thick skunk center strip in the headstock stops right behind the nut.

jwilli · Post by **jwilli** » Thu May 19, 2005 1:36 am

Karl, it does look like that according to those pics BUT its not the case. The guitar is original.....all of it. Hopefully, better pics will be posted soon.

leftybass · Post by **leftybass** » Thu May 19, 2005 2:14 am

JWilli is on the money. As weird as it looks, this 12-string is a bona-fide original.

combo850 · Post by **combo850** » Thu May 19, 2005 3:04 am

We should know for sure sometime this morning.

combo850 · Post by **combo850** » Thu May 19, 2005 4:31 am

I have now examined the guitar, and it is without a doubt...all-original, every last screw, all wiring, etc.. The guitar's most recent (and now former) owner was its second owner. Lefybass will be examining the guitar this afternoon, followed soon by Jwilli.

patrickkelly · Post by **patrickkelly** » Thu May 19, 2005 6:21 am

Well I'll be dipped in xxxx. Sure fooled me.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Thu May 19, 2005 6:44 am

Dipped in what, Patrick?

leftybass · Post by **leftybass** » Thu May 19, 2005 8:16 am

Every now and then something comes along that is very uncommon and makes people scratch their heads, it doesn't look the lest bit 'normal'. Some people thought that about the little Tenor Guitar from 1961...that it was a modified Combo 950 with a shaved neck. Not so. Factory all the way.

The point is this: as unbelievable as some things appear, that doesn't mean it couldn't have been made that way, especially from those days...NO absolutes.

Someone just told me the other day about a 4080/12 that had a factory SHORT SCALE bass neck from a 3001, it matched the 12-string neck perfectly. How 'bout that for cool?

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Thu May 19, 2005 10:07 am

This is the best part of collecting such wonderful guitars--stocking up on the lore and pursuing the elusive.

patrickkelly · Post by **patrickkelly** » Thu May 19, 2005 11:09 am

I'll admit I was fooled. The banjo tuners really threw me. I mean, the Bantar didn't even have banjo tuners, fer cryin' out loud!

combo850 · Post by **combo850** » Thu May 19, 2005 12:01 pm

I'm sure the Grover friction banjo tuners were an attempt at keeping the peghead from being too long. They fit very neatly between the single-line Klusons. This peghead is really slender and cute, not as long or wide as the Gibson, Martin, and Fender 12-string pegheads. There are also screw holes where it originally had a trapeze tailpiece. Those holes appear to have been plugged and lacquered over at the factory.

jwilli · Post by **jwilli** » Thu May 19, 2005 2:26 pm

Here's some pics: