10 versus 12 versus 15

charlyg · Post by **charlyg** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:58 pm

OK,I'm an old timer and used to love the old round sound. EBO with nylon strings, Fender P with flats. Sunn 100 watt head with a Plush 2x15 Cab. That was in my Navy days.

I am now playing through an Eden Traveller with a 210T cab. Ok, in the past, I have tried an Ampeg Ba 115, another amp with 2 12's but I don;t remember the brand. a Peavey that had 1 10 and 1 18 in it. and the Eden. The church I play in is 70 feet long, about 25 feet wide and is metal. It's a converted, portable school trailer now on a foundation.

The 18 and 10 were awful. Nothing but mud in that environment, no place for the air to go I guess. Kinda the same with the 15. The 2 12's weren't too bad, but I got snobbish when I got my Pedulla and went for Eden! Now that I have a Ric, I want to get an Ampeg again. I'm thinking of the ba 210sp. I just tried out a Hartke 1 x12 and it felt loose. I think the 10's finally have converted me.

Don't get me wrong, I still go for the rounder sounds. I don't slap or pop and I HATE too much mids or highs. I just want punch, so I compromise..

Anyways, the best idea would be a 4x10 but I would hate to have to move it. Not that I move my Eden (twice in the 7 years I have owned it)!

I'm sure this has come up before but I'm a newbie so forgive me if this is boring stuff!

clankchris · Post by **clankchris** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:06 pm

I'm selling my mustang to get a ranger so I can purchase an 8x10 cabinet.
I'm probably also crazy.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:27 pm

I use 8 x 10's all the time, Ampegs and that is also a prime consideration in what kind of car I buy. I get plenty of bottom and a nice round sound if I want from Ampeg 10's, 2 x 10's just don't do it for me though, I need at least a 4 x 10 cab.

dean712 · Post by **dean712** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:18 pm

Hey Charly, I don't know what kind of vehicle you drive, but I drive a middle-aged Crown Victoria, and my Ampeg 4x10 cabinet will fit in the trunk with the trunklid closed...haha. Like Bob, it was actually a consideration in the kind of car I bought. That 4x10 is a heavy sucker, though; I'm not a small man, but that sucker really takes 2 if there are any stairs or long carries involved.

Look around, and good luck!

cheyenne · Post by **cheyenne** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:33 am

A good 4x10 is a good all around combination. Punchy with clarity.

highway_star · Post by **highway_star** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:34 am

I went for light weight and portability, so I bought two Aguilar GS112 cabinets. They come very close to matching my Ampeg SVT410HLF cabinet for depth and add a bit more clarity. Plus, each cabinet weighs 40 lbs. and I can haul my entire rig in my wife's BMW 328 convertible if I need to. By comparison, my Ampeg cab weighs 110 lbs. and definitely needs my pickup to haul it. And I don't anyone around to help me load it, so the Aguilars make good sense to me.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:36 am

I build my own custom cabinets and use these speakers ...

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=290-411

for some reason 12's seem better for guitar ... 15's can get boomy ... and 18's can lack high end response ...

incubus2432 · Post by **incubus2432** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 3:45 am

I went the same route as Ron and got several smaller cabinets. I have a Mesa Boogie 2x10 and two 1x15's.....I'd rather make several annoying trips than have one major hassle with a giant refrigerator (I've done that in the past). Plus I can get everything into the back of my VW hatchback.

My opinion would be to get either 2-2x10 cabinets or a 2x10 and 1x15. You can always try a second Eden cabinet rather than selling it to get Ampeg. Any 2x10 by itself would sound better with a little help.

iamthebassman · Post by **iamthebassman** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:15 am

15's for me.

rickengeezer · Post by **rickengeezer** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 4:42 am

Lately I've been going through cabs trying to find a combination that sounds good and is lightweight, as an old guy like me has to be careful and my bandmates are even older than I!

I'm now using Avatar 2-10 and 1-15 NEO cabinets with the lighter NEO magnets. Quite manageable weightwise, and I think they sound great at a very reasonable price. The 2-10 cab especially should fit in the front seat of most cars. I've also heard people rave about the Avatar 2-12 cab by itself, but I've never heard one. Some people have been doing crossover mods to the Avatar cabs, but I haven't found any reason to when using a Rick.

thx1955 · Post by **thx1955** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:17 am

Les, I've the 4x12 version of the Avatar 2x12. And love it. My next cabinet will probably be one of the 2x12's and a 2x10 to match.

Even though it's heavy, the tone and punch from the 4x12 is fantastic. I had Dave at Avatar fit Eminence Kappa Pro's to mine, and then when I got it I calculated and then ported it myself.

I may look at getting a pair of empty 2x12 carcasses and moving my Kappa's over to smaller 2x12 cabinets.

I've been using the 4x12 since 2002 with no problems.

admin · Post by **admin** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:20 am

How much wattage would you want your bass amp head to have to drive the Ampeg 9X10? Also, do you have a preference for a make of towel as well?

thx1955 · Post by **thx1955** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:32 am

umm .. SVP III Pro Preamp feeding a Crown K2 in bridged mono should do nicely.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:56 am

200, 300, even 100 watts will drive either an 8 x 10 or a 9 x 10 Ampeg easily. They are fairly efficient especially compared to the smaller cabs mentioned here.
Incidently I fit a 8 x 10 in the back of a 4 door 94 Cutless, haha! I took the back seat out. It fit with the seat in but I couldn't get both upright and cab in at the same time. That's the new style not the older big ones. Also an upright and a Ric and one or two heads, suitase, stands etc. My wife actually fits too.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:57 am

Oh any towel will do as long as it's clean.