360/6 Toasters too Jangly

joutten · Post by **joutten** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:00 pm

I'd like to get some more low-end warmth from my 360/6. Should I replace both toasters with high-gains or just the neck pickup?

Ric 360/6 VP/MB
Ric 4003 FG
Taylor 714-ce
Martin D1-R

tony_carey · Post by **tony_carey** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:16 pm

Hi James, welcome to the forum.

My opinion is that if your 360 has a 24 fret neck, then replace them both with hi-gains, you wont be disapointed!

Scastles · Post by **Scastles** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:43 pm

Welcome to the Forum, James! I have to say the hi-gains might be the way to go, but I like the sound of my 360V with the toasters. I get a more subtle sound with my hi-gains on my other 360. Heck, it's what sounds good to you.

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:37 pm

Tony... can you elborate on that relationship between the toasters and a 21 fret model (like a Carl Wilson model 360)?

Are you saying that the toasters sound better with a 21-fret than they do with a 24-fret?

oreca · Post by **oreca** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:43 pm

This reasoning comes from alot of recent threads that were discussed around Toasters.
I think your best bet is to use the Search option, many people have made great informative posts on the subject.

Basicly general concensus is that in a 21 fret guitar the extra spacing between the both pickups will give you a rounder tone then the 24 fret guitars that tend to have a glassier tone.

And that's without getting into the 2 different toaster types...

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:13 pm

oh, I see.... I figured it had to do with the (possible) difference in the length of strings from one to another (different string tension and all that).

Anyways, I'm off for a trip to NYC soon and will be visiting 47th st (Manny's, Sam Ash etc) and if I see a Jetglo 360/6 Carl Wilson 21-fret model thats been modified with all black plastic and an 3rd pickup I'll immediatly go rob a bank and then buy the sucker.

tony_carey · Post by **tony_carey** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:43 pm

Couldn't have said it better Patrick.....

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:14 am

Kent, that's 48th St. There are other good music stores in the area, don't think that 48th St. is the center of the universe - you'll probably be dissapointed.

Check out 30th St. Guitars, Matt Umanov Guitars, and if you're up for a ferry ride, head over to Staten Island to Mandolin Bros.

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:12 am

yea... 48th.... and I GREW UP in Manhattan! .... me bad.

Yea, NYC is a big place with a lot of music shops... a couple down in the Village that are interesting. Umanov Guitars is one of them.... its on Bleeker St.... did they open another shop on 30th?

http://www.umanovguitars.com/

They are mostly acoustic guitar and other stringed thangs. In my experience it was never the place to go for a good electric guitar collection. Any other good spots you know of where one can go to drool over Rics?

joutten · Post by **joutten** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:58 am

I have heard of some people putting hi-gains in the neck position and leaving toasters in the bridge. What does this sound like?

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:40 am

Good question!.... (cant wait to hear the answers)

I've also seen a pix of the other way around with the toaster at the neck.... kinda bass ackwards but there's a certain counterbalance logic to it I guess.

tony_carey · Post by **tony_carey** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:45 am

Depends which toaster James. The hi-gain could over power the toaster, resulting in a 'neck heavy' sound. If you put one of the older 'hot' toasters in, then the balance would be better.

IMHO...like with like will give you the sound that was meant to be (Peters triple pick up 350 special excluded!)