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ken_swearingen · Post by **ken_swearingen** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:37 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4713&item=7333859887&rd=1

ozover50 · Post by **ozover50** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:43 pm

When did Rickenbacker stop using bolt-on necks, I wonder..... in fact, when did they start!!?!??

thx1955 · Post by **thx1955** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:50 pm

4080 is / was the only one far as I know !!!

Nasty, even the attempt at Fireglo has me seething !!!

ozover50 · Post by **ozover50** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:56 pm

Wasn't there a 200 or 2000 series sometime back with bolt-on necks?

edski · Post by **edski** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:07 am

There were some set neck 4001's, but this is a definite faker, IMHO.

cheyenne · Post by **cheyenne** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:11 am

This one's not even close.

vito · Post by **vito** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:15 am

As an aside, the 3000 series had bolt-on necks.

marc61 · Post by **marc61** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:51 am

Look at that nasty looking pickup surround.

haw · Post by **haw** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:24 am

somebody put the treble pickup surround in the washing machine and it shrank before they remounted it.
Why is this thing still listed?

iamthebassman · Post by **iamthebassman** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:53 am

Actually, I do believe those '70s 4003s DID have bolt-on necks

bassduke49 · Post by **bassduke49** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:56 am

Figuring that dedicated frauds might change the truss-rod cover, look for these things when determining a fake:

Bolt-on plate (shouldn't be there)
Color of fretboard (bubinga/rosewood) should be reddish; this one is ebony(?)
Pickups and surrounds (varied through the years, but most of us know what they should look like)
Jack plate -- some faker's double jacks say "stereo" instead of Ric-O-Sound

More subtle things such as color, width of binding, body and headstock proportions are more tricky.

I e-mailed that guy last night and politely "informed" him of that bass being a Fakenbacker and told him to expect to have the listing pulled shortly. Didn't hear back.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:02 am

Nice fireglo pattern on the back. I wonder why they call us the Ric police?

mikeylc · Post by **mikeylc** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:41 am

They added this to the message-

"After further research, we have found that this is likely a 4002 modlel from Rickenbacker. The jack plate has been replaced and there is no serail number to reference. We are selling this AS IS. Please look at it carefully and ask questions before bidding. Good Luck"

I wonder where the heck they are doing their research"

rickengeezer · Post by **rickengeezer** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:51 am

After further research, I think it is likely a 3005. Namely, a 39 U.S.C. @ 3005, that section of the US legal code that proscribes "scheme[s] or device[s] for obtaining money… through the mail by means of false representations".

edski · Post by **edski** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:03 am

Vintage 70’s Rickenbacker 4003

I though the first 4003's came in the 80's...

It has had some modifications at one point, but we just had it put back to original status

I'll overlook the PU cover, but those PU's are NOT original to a Rick...

Fret Marker Style : Triangle

Wow! Those are full width inlays! On a 4003 (or is it a 4002?)!! I though those were discontinued in about 1972...

Neck Type : Through Body

Then what's that plate on the back for? Good looks?

The "further research" comment is a joke. No jack plate? Yeah, OK, but I thought this was "put back to original". Yeah, a 4002...dude better learn to research a little better in order to pull off his scams. And he complains about "deadbeat bidders". Wonder why he has that problem...

And yes, the FG on the back is just HIDEOUS!

Good luck selling that POS, liar!