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Remembers classic songs from the late 1950s and 1960s
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Dane,

Do I take it that Randy related to Bob?
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Its all a function of memory. In some circles people say that if you remember the sixties then you werent there.

Most of the protest songs I remember (probably because we played them at some point) were political in nature. Very few were totally centered on HRA issues.
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In some circles people say that if you remember the sixties then you werent there.

Never subscribed to that it's one of those legendary cliche's in my view, besides that phrase really belongs to the late sixties.

You may disagree however and that's fine by me also.
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No could not agree more with your comment
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The 60's pseudo drug culture never appealed to me at all.
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Too many greats died being a part of it.

Jones
Joplin
Hendrix
Morrison

Need I say more?
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Um, Roy, how do you discuss protest music without discussing the environment and social conditions that spawned it?

I don't know of any protest songs that were written about non-controversial topics. By definition, etc....
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Without some political discussion, we would have a recital of song titles. Pretty boring stuff...
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Politics and Religion are taboo subjects to many.

Jesus did not shy away from either.
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For What its Worth - Buffalo Springfield

Great Song. Great Band.

There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
I think it's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side
It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away
We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
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Here's a write up on the song

"These lyrics from the Buffalo Springfield's 1967 hit 'For What It's Worth'
have come to symbolize the turbulent decade of the 1960s.
'For What It's Worth' has transcended the pop charts to become, a touchstone for an entire generation. In 1967, the Buffalo Springfield captured the restless, confrontational mood of that generation railing against the establishment and went on to be revered as one of rock music's most influential groups. ..Copyright 1967 By Stephen Stills"
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This song was written as a paean of protest to the LAPD's Gestapo tactics when they moved in and shut down Pandora's Box, a teen club on Sunset and Crescent Heights in LA (less thanb a block away from Schwab's Drug Store, where supposedly Lana Turner was discovered at the soda fountain). Pandora's Box subsequently burned to the ground under mysterious circumstances and was promptly razed.

How did Stills meet Young? He pulled up in a Strip traffic jam (near La Cienega, by the smoking Marlboro Man billboard) behind a strange and rare 1953 Pontiac hearse with Ontario license plates and thought, "must be a musician in that car", got out and introduced himself. The rest is, as they say, one for the books. I have a model of this selfsame vehicle...it has a weird aura.
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Now that was meant to be dont you think?. I loved their music . I also loved music by CSN&Y. Surprisingly to me at least (I'm a Hollies fan), Nash made a great contribution to that band.
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Don't misunderstand what I said guys but I don't want tis turning into what another group I used has become and that is a platform for discussing one's views totally unrelated to music, I know some of you are clearly passoniate about some subjects but the essence of the forum is have a bit of banter as we say here in UK, agree and disagree but not become politcal activists.

LECTURE OVER.

By the way did some of you know that my other passion The Searchers recorded For What It's Worth but it was never released until last year nad then on a compilation which in my view probably did not sell that well, if anyone wants to compare versions let me know I''L SEND IT OFFLINE.
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Hi Roy,

No worries mate. And No; I have never heard the searchers version.

I am also a Searchers fan. My band in the 60's used to do Sweets for my Sweet. Needles and Pins, Farmer John and Love Potion No.9. See no drug culture involvement here. I can remember things. Now where was I? LOL
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