SansAmp ?'s (from YES conversation) and EBS

jblakey · Post by **jblakey** » Sat Aug 24, 2002 8:30 am

I have seen the posts under "Saw YES last night" that have turned to the SansAmp DI's.
Are you speaking of the stompbox or the rackmount RBI version? I am interested in getting and running the rack version into a yet to be purchased power amp then into my 2x15 and 4x10 cabs (my old amp is dying again). I understand from dealer sites that the RBI (rackable) is a bit different besides shape , such as the mids control.. any experiences with this?
Also.. any experiences with EBS amps out there? I have heard they are great with "piano sounding bass" (according to http://www.bass.se/products/reviews/fafner/eng_bp0597.htm )sounds like it may be a good mix with Ricks but have yet to find one close by to try out... near Tulsa that is.

gpatt5762 · Post by **gpatt5762** » Sat Aug 24, 2002 6:13 pm

So Dallas is too long a drive for you?

Seriously, I'm the one who plays his "Instant 4001S" thru a BassDriver DI stomp box into either my church's house system, which is right at a year old, or , at home, into the "Effects Receive" jack on the back of my SWR Redhead combo. Both give pleasant, authentic, vintage Rick tones, though slightly different from one another. The church has a "No Amps" policy, so a preamp-equipped DI is your only chance of sounding good, as I've concluded, based on our guitarists' experience, that POD's are for weezers.

Sorry POD owners, that's just where it's at.

If I can flame you some more, let me know.

Napalmically Yours,
Garry

mortivan · Post by **mortivan** » Sun Aug 25, 2002 7:30 am

Garry,

Respectfully, can you give me some background material on why POD's are for, umm, "weezers?"

After hearing glowing reviews, I was thinking about picking one up. I use a 4003 and a FL J-Bass.

Feel free to privately email me if you want. (mortivanATyahooDOTcom)

Thanks.

rickenbrother · Post by **rickenbrother** » Sun Aug 25, 2002 2:01 pm

John, you would kind of understand what Garry meant if you had one. I bought a Bass POD after they were available, I returned it with in a week, and picked up a SansAmp Bass DI for less than half the price. I love that SanAmp Bass DI. If something happened to it, I would get another one. Maybe I would get the SansAmp Bass RBI.

craigv · Post by **craigv** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 2:03 am

Hmmm, so I should be able to get:

2 Bass RBI's - $400
1 Crown UT1010 - $400
1 SKB rack case - $125

and for 925 bucks I've got very SVT-like sound and more power, in a compact stereo rig? Sounds way too good to be true, considering a pair of real SVT's run $3,000. Make me a believer...my wallet and back will thank you.

iamthebassman · Post by **iamthebassman** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 12:24 pm

Last night was my first band rehearsal with my new Sansamp Bass Driver. I love it! I used the SVT setting as a starting point and made slight alterations. The band kinda sounds like The Church with 2 guitars with lots of effects. My bass sound was big but also cut thru all the swirling, flanged, echoed wierdness. I can't believe I waited this long to get this thing.

rickenbrother · Post by **rickenbrother** » Tue Aug 27, 2002 6:21 pm

Craig - Are you buying those RBI's used ? Normally they are $300 each.

Nigel - another satisfied SansAmp Bass DI customer. That's good, I'm glad ya got one.

levykev · Post by **levykev** » Wed Aug 28, 2002 3:31 am

hey guys-

Thanks for all of the SansAmp info. I just ordered one yesterday and can't wait to fire it up. I know it'll sound great with my 4001CS. Keep the reviews coming.

craigv · Post by **craigv** » Wed Aug 28, 2002 8:02 am

Joey,

You're absolutely right. I just looked at zzounds.com, where I had 'seen' them for $199. They're $299. Damn, I knew it was too good to be true.

But still a lot less than the real thing. Decisions, decisions. I need to try one out next to an SVT

gaboik · Post by **gaboik** » Wed Aug 28, 2002 2:57 pm

Guys, I just sold my 2 SVT set-ups. I can tell you that before I sold them, I compared the sound with the POD, and the Pod was in the pocket. The sound of the POD was exact to the SVT. All that you have to do is adjust the POD like they explain to you in the manual. I've been playing Ricks with SVTs since 1975. As soon as I made the coparison test, I put the SVTs up for sale. The trick is that you need to get 2 PODs to really obtain that sound.
I also compared the POD to my B-15, and the sound was so exact that I could not belive it, down to that wobbly sound that the cheap speaker that originally came with the B-15 made. I recently recorded the rick, and I was able to get the Squire sound by using a Bass POD, and a Guitar POD in combo. It sounds awsome. you may not know this, but the POD has buttons that double as the old SVT boost and cut buttons. There is no sound that the SVTs made that you cannot get from the pod. It's all in the adjustments and tweeking. After you tweek, you can save the settings forever!!!! It's an awsome piece of equipment.

gpatt5762 · Post by **gpatt5762** » Thu Aug 29, 2002 5:23 pm

John,

RE: "Weezers"

I was feeling somewhat cocky that night, combined with the observation I've made of this guy in our church's praise band who has the Boss version of a Pod- and who is totally overwhelmed by the thing- and who holds up practice on a weekly basis trying to get his sound sorted out- and who is the only guy in the band who can't get a sound right away. The Lead player in our band uses a Pod and his sound is so packaged and predictable you'd think he had a 3-CD deal w/ Jive Records or something. Then there's me: I use this SansAmp with six dials and a stomp button on it, sound different from week to week, and see my own doing as dangerously close to the line, sort of, analogue modeling, if you will.

John, I guess I'm turned off with any gear setup that gets in the way of getting ready to play in a short time frame. If it requires a Certificate from your local Community College to operate and takes 45 + minutes to set up, you shouldn't use it- I don't care how "good" it sounds- it doesn't. It's a "Poser-Box" because it has digital samples of real tube amp sounds.

For jut $300- $500 more you could have a "Real Man's" set-up…

A TUBE AMP!!

…and be banned from playing in selected places, too!!

This Neanderthal rant sure is fun, John. I think it's the purist-to-a-fault streak coming out.

So why the H*** did Castro sell his SVT's? If an SVT is good enough for Avril Lavigne's bass player, what's up here?

Cheers,
Garry

gaboik · Post by **gaboik** » Thu Aug 29, 2002 7:30 pm

You get to a point in your life where you know you're not going to become a superstar, and you're the only fool walking into a venue with enough equipment to take down the town's power generating station, and at the tender age of 40, you start to look for alternate ways of getting awsome sound in smaller packages. Do you guys know that the older you get, the heavier SVTs get!
No, really, the SVTs are great, but I just wasn't using them and hadn't used them live since 1992.
Let someone else enjoy them. there is so much new technology out there these days that it doesn't take 300 pounds of electronics to sound good. I'm doing more studio work these days and my two PODs work well in most situations. I did keep one of the cabinets to use with my new, and much lighter Carvin 2-10 combo.

mortivan · Post by **mortivan** » Fri Aug 30, 2002 10:01 am

Garry,

I understand where you were coming from. It's got to be frustrating playing with someone who gets stuck with setting knobs dials and switches when he should be ready to play.

bottom4 · Post by **bottom4** » Fri Aug 30, 2002 12:36 pm

how does the MXR M80 DI+ match up with the SansAmp?

gpatt5762 · Post by **gpatt5762** » Fri Aug 30, 2002 2:22 pm

John,

(OT)

It Gets Worse!!

Today I bought the Bass Player mag with Entwistle on the cover and, on page 56, in the sidebar, "GEAR: Tone Wasn't Built in a Day", the right column mentions where Ashdown thech and Entwistle pal Mark Gooday touching on Entwistle experimenting with, get this, a PRO-POD guitar unit for distortion, I guess for his highs.

How embarrassing!! Do you suppose this made him an "Ent-Weezer"?

Just Kidding- John was ALWAYS my hero- and, I'm sure, had the time to invest in learning the POD.

Oh, Well, Neoprene and concrete and Fire Ants sure taste awful!!

Garry