Paul McCartney "Chaos And Creation"

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:36 am

I think Mac realized this about 1970 (not after a 35-year-long solo career), although "realized" implies a flash of clarity which would then be followed in many cases by a conscious decision, perhaps based upon a strategy of some sort. I think that Mac operates on "fill the need without thinking too much about why it's there". The opposite of John?

The title song is not growing on me, and I'm hearing it a lot. To put such a "heavy" topic with such obvious words, to such a bouncy melody (and who if not Mac is the King of Bouncy?), would have worked if somewhere an ironic twist came to be. But, no irony is present, leading me to believe that he either missed or denied the one thing that would make the song work conceptually.

But, who am I to comment on Paul's songwriting skills, I know. None of my compositions has charted beyond my living room.

Great album title.

shamustwin · Post by **shamustwin** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:48 am

Lennon began selling his image, art, everything right away (with Yoko). Inviting the press to watch you and your wife in bed sprouting world peace slogans? He always admitted trading on his fame.

Perhaps it would have been more accurate for me to say Mac has begun same more blatantly than in the past.

Now, if he'd only sign Rickenbacker basses, we'd all be happy!

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:03 am

John didn't charge admission.

Nobody would have paid anyway.

simer4001 · Post by **simer4001** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:06 pm

They have always pimped their albums one way or another. The people who Paul is marketing to are guys like us. Are we listening to top 40 radio? No. We are investing money for retirement, saving for our childrens education(Although I wouldn't invest with Fidelity) and we drive more affluent vehicles. Perhaps a Lexus. He's trying to reach the people who will buy his album.

As for John and Yoko, it disgusts me that Yoko would allow RIC and Epiphone to make reissues of his guitars. I don't think John would have allowed it. But I know that some of you that are slamming McCartney for selling out own one or maybe both of those guitars.

Sorry for being pissy, but that 49er game really torqued me off. How do you lead a game for 58:09 and lose. Oh yeah...they suck!

revolver323 · Post by **revolver323** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:09 pm

Brian: At least you don't have the Pittsburgh Pirates as your hometown baseball club. Succo Buccos, they call 'em.

scottpro1969 · Post by **scottpro1969** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:35 pm

Hey Dave: You a Steeler fan too?? Curse of the Patriots!!!! Sorry, couldn't resist

They have the same problem as the Colts do against us. Just can't get it done

revolver323 · Post by **revolver323** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 2:40 pm

Fan? Not really. I can take or leave watching the games (I mostly leave them) and if they win or lose, it doesn't really bother me. I see they lost in the last second today. Oops! To me, hockey is much more entertaining than football is.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:46 pm

Who are the 49ers?

ozover50 · Post by **ozover50** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:59 pm

They live next door to the 47ers and across the road from the 46ers and 48ers!!

britye · Post by **britye** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:23 pm

Ok, I just bought the thing today. It's not horrible as some suggest, Fine Line is kinda catchy tune..Look I'm happy the guy is doing something..I'm with Paul aka Jingle Jangle , I've only charted a tune with my dog in my living room.. I ain't gonna pick it apart...His modus operandi? WGAF**K, not me

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:41 pm

Aitch, I work at 1849, and ain't seen hahd nor hayer of 'em!

shamustwin · Post by **shamustwin** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:44 pm

Launching Johnandyoko Inc., with all it's goofy hippie photo-ops(sorry Dane), turned the two of them into an entity from which they surely profited, apart from his music.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:06 pm

I thought it was called "Lennono", or was that another corporate entity?

Photo-op was a Washington term coined long after John's death.

My own opinion at the time the "Bed-Ins" went down, is that they were doing something they deeply believed in, with a bit of self-deprecating humor tossed in. The media created the circus atmosphere, and John and Yoko played it for all it was worth, believing (IMO) that the bigger the splash, the greater the number of people who would see their peace message.

I enjoyed the Ballad of John and Yoko. I liked the way he thumbed his nose at so many sacred cows (to mix a metaphor!). To those who say he did it for profit, I'd respond that nothing is pure, nobody knew this better than John, who was quite bitter and cynical at that time, and he had a lot of baggage and many things to still prove to himself and the world. He was a musician, so he musicked.

"Imagine" was from the same period. A brilliant, gentle, awesome entreaty. I still have the poster that came with the album. It shows John sitting at his snow white grand piano in a high-ceilinged room in one of his apartments at the Dakota (I imagine.)

winston · Post by **winston** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:19 pm

Paul,

I believe I read somewhere that the some of the Imagine video and the white piano scene in particular were shot on location in upstate NY. It's quite likely that someone on the forum will know precisely where that scene was shot.

revolver323 · Post by **revolver323** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:34 am

I thought the white piano sequence was filmed either in John's London home, which was quite spacious (and the site of the English garden mentioned in "I Am the Walrus") or at the Dakota. Had John moved to NY that early in the '70s? Don't know for sure.