This lovely V63 FG, again...?

bob_atherton · Post by **bob_atherton** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:00 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rickenbacker-4001V63-Electric-Bass-Guitar-MINT-W-Case_W0QQitemZ7354635221QQcategoryZ4713QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

What went wrong first time around?

dswp · Post by **dswp** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:04 am

I just saw it, and thought the same thing...

ken_swearingen · Post by **ken_swearingen** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:11 am

I got about 5 second chance offers for that one dont know which was real????

apollo11 · Post by **apollo11** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:28 pm

Well, my guess is that with the bids on the table, the bidding went to 2800. When the high bidder went and removed his bid, it went back to $1000. Ken's bid was in there, which the seller knew. He probably enlisted a shill bidder or two to bring it back up to where he knew it was, around the $2800 mark. Ken didn't budge higher, so a possible shill bid won the auction. Thankfully Ken stood his ground, leaving the seller to relist his bass, as the high bidder was a shill.

From this point on, I'd let it be a lesson that this may be a dishonest seller. Maybe not, but I'd say shills were involved. He wouldn't get my bid.

apollo11 · Post by **apollo11** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:32 pm

Let me clarify that I'm thinking that shills were involved---I don't mean to be accusatory and say they were definitely involved,

jps · Post by **jps** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:35 pm

Uh huh!

s4001 · Post by **s4001** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:58 pm

I got second chance on it too. Methinks there were some shenanigans going on.

ken_swearingen · Post by **ken_swearingen** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 2:47 pm

That last bidder was definatly a shill bidder but even so how do you prove it and with ebay making money there not going to do anything.

jnbass · Post by **jnbass** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:42 pm

b_stards!

marc61 · Post by **marc61** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:01 am

Why would that mellotron guy be a shill? He bought a Squire video recently and also purchased a $3000 plus mellotron.. Looks like real to me..

ken_swearingen · Post by **ken_swearingen** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 4:17 am

Either that or he lurks here and realized its not worth what he bid.see if they gave him any neg. feedback.

cheyenne · Post by **cheyenne** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:08 am

Is that the NOS V63? (new old stock). I thought Ken had that one locked down a week or two ago.

ken_swearingen · Post by **ken_swearingen** » Sat Oct 01, 2005 10:45 am

Scott, along came this shill bidder and bid up the price. Its a reissue I paid $2500. for my 67 Im not going to pay that for a v

ken_swearingen · Post by **ken_swearingen** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 12:28 pm

After close examination that v63 is not NOS the strings have been changed why would you change the strings on a "new" instrument your not playing,thats not new.False advertising!!!!!!!!

ken_swearingen · Post by **ken_swearingen** » Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:43 am

Look close at the Red felt on the strings!