The Etiology of the Jangle

eatswodo · Post by **eatswodo** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:56 am

Here's a more pleasant definition:

jangle

n : a metallic sound; "the jingle of coins"; "the jangle of spurs" [syn: jingle] v : make a sound typical of metallic objects; "The keys were jingling in his pocket" [syn: jingle, jingle-jangle]

Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University

longhouse · Post by **longhouse** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:02 am

I always associate JANGLE with strummed passages or dense arpeggios. -and artists with a tendency to leave their pinky on the E string/3rd fret.

Jangle songs:

'Almost With You' - the Church
'Needles and Pins' - the Searchers

Rics have been likened to 'strumming bells'. This I like.

CHIME is the clear, ringing brightness of a single note -or the presence of defined individual notes withing a chord. Ric's and their crystalline, clarion chime.

Chime song? hmmm

'The Bitterest Pill' - the Jam

Of course, the Zombies 'Leave Me Be' does both with aplomb.

cheers, Noel

octagon · Post by **octagon** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:50 am

How much of the "Jangle" is in the strings? I ask because my 83 620 with high gains sounds has a much less trebly sound in comparison with my other Ricks and I was wondering if putting a set of Rick strings will rachet up the "J" factor.

Scastles · Post by **Scastles** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:03 am

I always considered the jangle or jingle tab stuck on the sound of Ricks purely through coincidence/adoption of Dylan's Mr. Tambourine Man lyrics, "in the jingle jangle morning..." and the Byrds soaring (excuse the pun) to overnight success with the song. I think the term 'jangle' was even used on the liner notes of the Byrds first album in reference to their sound. Call it jangle, jingle, crisp, clean or just sweet, any could fit a Rick.

randyz · Post by **randyz** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:22 am

Noel: I know exactly what you mean about folks who "leave their pinky on the E string, 3rd fret". That describes a major facet of my self-taught guitar style. I wanted to jingle/jangle like The Byrds back as a teenager, but I couldn't afford a Rickenbacker 12-string, so I started augmenting my 6-string chords with my pinky. There's probably a proper term for what I'm doing, but I don't know what it is. Adding that ring to certain chords is second nature for me now.

tony_carey · Post by **tony_carey** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:42 pm

Mitch, I believe that Ric CRW strings WILL add to the 'J' factor! My new 330 came with pyramids on & I find them much less chimey & jangly than all my other Rics which are strung with CRW's. I am definately not a flatwound pyramid fan & my playing & sound suffered at their hands! Strings make an incredible difference to your sound. I get through 2-3 sets of strings a week & would LOVE to buy cheaper strings. Fact is, Ric strings help to give me 'that' Ric sound that I love so much.

ozover50 · Post by **ozover50** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:42 pm

Tony: I sent you an email but it bounced with "permanent fatal errors".

Is "info at anthonycarey dot co dot uk" correct?

If not, perhaps you could email me at my address and I'll respond.

octagon · Post by **octagon** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 5:19 pm

Thanks Tony,lucky that I have a spare set.

amcrory · Post by **amcrory** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:44 pm

compression, EQ, and chord voicings w/open strings, octaves, or doubled notes.

Check out my arrangement of an original tune that's nearing completion. Tons of jangle, and nary a rick in sight (well, the bass is a v63).

http://andymcrory.com/doingallright1.mp3

-a

tony_carey · Post by **tony_carey** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:26 am

Email sent Howard....

ozover50 · Post by **ozover50** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:04 am

Thanks, Tony.

kcole4001 · Post by **kcole4001** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 5:12 am

Cool song. Got some Beatle chords in there I see.

amcrory · Post by **amcrory** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 7:09 am

well, if by "Beatle chords" you mean majors and minors, then yeah. I guess so. The only funky voicing is that F#m w/all the open strings.

-a

kcole4001 · Post by **kcole4001** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 7:32 am

Just a brief 2 chord change at the 34 & 35 second mark of the sample. I'm a bass player primarily so altered chords don't come naturally to me. Love the sound!

amcrory · Post by **amcrory** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 3:30 pm

I'm also a bassist, and, as this is pop, there are no altered chords (alt meaning b5b9 or #9 or b13, etc.). You're hearing a garden-variety major-to-minor change (Dmaj to Dm) -- the Beatles do that all the time, as do other pop groups (Hall & Oates used that trick a lot, as in "Your Kiss is on my List"). Once Paul-ish thing I did on that part is walk from the D to the F, accentuating the minor 3rd.

-a