New Fireglo Finish?

melibreits · Post by **melibreits** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:43 pm

Ewwwww.... that second one I would have to call "seasick green!"

I am glad that it is merely a photoshop creation!

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:55 pm

Jeffrey, looking at images all day, and constantly messing with them on both my Apples (one with a pricey Silicon Graphics monitor), I had little trouble following what you said about the bass looking a bit warm and the chrome shadows a bit blue. Easiest solution is to tweak the lighting with gels or use a selectable multicolor light box, but post processing in Photoshop could be done using the Layers feature quite easily. I often use this cheat to get things to look right to my eye.

A bonus is that you can correct each layer for balance, contrast, saturation, and hue.

jps · Post by **jps** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:42 pm

"Easiest solution is to tweak the lighting with gels or use a selectable multicolor light box,"

The problem with that is spill from the various lights onto unwanted areas. PS corrections would be the way to go these days.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:14 pm

Yep. I do defer to your greater knowledge on this, Jeffrey, and I guess I agree with you on that!

johnhall · Post by **johnhall** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:37 am

Back on the new Fireglo color issue-

Forgive me from quoting from my own post over on our RIC forum- but it bears repeating, as some numbnutz in yet another forum has offered his particular spin on this issue which I won't repeat.

I said:

"The final, AS APPLIED coloration of the dye coat itself has not changed at all. The actual raw tint itself has, since the required environmental changes vastly reduced the viscosity and the way the color sprays down, and since the tint is carried by clear material that is slightly more amber now.

In other words, the actual tint had to change to compensate for a different color of the carrier. It's like using Mountain Dew instead of clear water to do a fine watercolor painting- some adjustment is necessary.

The final clear coat is also more amber, warming up the overall appearance slightly.

In any case, the effect is very, very subtle"

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:26 am

So, John, the point is that you recommend Mountain Dew in watercolor paintings, then?

jwilli · Post by **jwilli** » Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:36 pm

Uhuhuhh...he said "numbnutz". Uhuhhh.

wim · Post by **wim** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:24 am

Again trying to capture the glow of the fire :

http://users.telenet.be/webruimtev/DSCN0131.JPG

This is a picture taken without any editing.
Only thing I did was set the white balance of the camera to pickguard = white.
don't know how it looks on your monitors, but on mine it is somewhat blueish in comparison to the real thing that's hanging in front of me.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:23 am

On my Silicon Graphics monitor with a Windows machine (HP Visualize) it looks a bit blue.

On my Apple Mac4 with Apple monitor, it looks just right to my eyes. This is set up with native gamma and white point.

wim · Post by **wim** » Sat Oct 15, 2005 7:36 am

clearblue · Post by **clearblue** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:08 pm

Is that the new fireglo?

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:40 pm

Nope. It's Wim's test mule.

The one he dabs white-out onto.

gregga41 · Post by **gregga41** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:25 am

My 360/6 FG was built in January this year,and it does have that "Pink" tinge.
At the recent Aussie rickfest(meeting) with Darren Trott and Howard Bishop, we had nearly all era of the fireglo finish present. It was amazing to compare early 60's finishes with 21st century versions. Quite a difference.
But... looking at mine, here by itself, without a single 60's FG around,I love it to death!
Just opening the case to reveal the "work of art" gives me a warm,fuzzy feeling!LOL
Don't worry Howard, i'm sure you'll love your 360/6FG when it lands on our shores. Will be interesting to compare the 2 though!

clearblue · Post by **clearblue** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:59 am

My 330 fireglo was manufactured in Jan '05. I like the "pink" but its very subtle. I'm hesitant on ordering a new fireglo 350v63 without actually seeing one.

johnhall · Post by **johnhall** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:21 am

They won't be "pink" very long and will slowly change in time to look like every other Fireglo at some point in its life. The oldest Fireglo's are now beginning to turn black at the edges, depending on their time in the sun and how thick the clear coats are.