Whitey Faker

rickaddict · Post by **rickaddict** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:13 am

http://cgi.ebay.com/1978-Rickenbacker-4001-Bass-like-4003_W0QQitemZ7372937845QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This is a fairly well done faker. And I don't think I've ever seen a white one before.

mikeylc · Post by **mikeylc** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:22 am

I'm no expert but it looks real to me. It has all the same parts as my '81 down to the electronics, pots, caps, wiring. Tuners are the same. Pending a good look at the jackplate, I'd say it's real and some joker put new plastic on it.

rickfan60 · Post by **rickfan60** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:28 am

That appears to be real. The guard and TRC are not but the rest looks ok. The wire harness looks genuine as do the bridge, surround and wood work.

s4001 · Post by **s4001** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:34 am

It's got dual trussrods. It's real. Just missing the TRC.

ajish4 · Post by **ajish4** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:44 am

Wow, now THIS is a real good faker!!!!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/1976-Univox-Stereo-Bass-U1975_W0QQitemZ7372900212QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

dswp · Post by **dswp** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:53 am

It has the jack plate with the serial number. I think it's real... (edit, not the Univox one)

kcole4001 · Post by **kcole4001** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:27 am

It yellowed just like mine: darker under the pickguard.
Looks like extra routing under the neck pup, though.

ken_swearingen · Post by **ken_swearingen** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:40 am

Definitely real!

henny · Post by **henny** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:05 pm

White is real, absoloutely.

alanz · Post by **alanz** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:13 pm

When did RIC start routing the groove for the neck PU lead instead of drilling a series of holes? My 77 has the series of holes and my 85 has a route; this 78 has what looks like a routing to me.

rickfan60 · Post by **rickfan60** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:27 pm

It must have been around '78 or '79. My '80 has a smooth route like that too.

marc61 · Post by **marc61** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:26 pm

marc61 · Post by **marc61** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:26 pm

rickaddict · Post by **rickaddict** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:42 pm

Oops! My bad. I glanced at this one noticed a few oddities when comparing with my own 70's 4001s, and jumped to the conclusion that it was a faker with a bunch of real RIC parts bolted on. I thought that:

1)The inlays looked too sharp at the corners--but maybe its just that the strings are covering the corners and messin'with my mind.
2)I noticed the fake TRC and pickguard.
3)I noticed the groove for the neck pickup wire--(I'm looking at my March 1980 4001 right now and it has that groove drilled, not routed as do my '76,'77, and '79)--but maybe that's just one of those RIC oddities that we've come to know and love!

One more goofy thing about this auction...when I go to click on the LARGER PICTURE to zoom in I'm taken to photos of a different white 4001 and a different auction.

rikk · Post by **rikk** » Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:48 pm

It's interesting. The Univox ad does not mention Rickenbacker at all. I wonder if this still violates The counterfit policy?

The white bass is ugly without the neck pickup.