8mh solo

blckout420 · Post by **blckout420** » Mon Dec 04, 2000 12:36 am

Hi everybody. I'm a little late but I just discovered this forum. But I see familiar people here...
Ok, topic for discussion. I have heard this several times before, and have always wondered about it.The Eight Miles High solo rumor. I heard once on a radio trivia contest that it was done originally in the session by Glen Campbell.(the winning answer) Seems far fetched, but also possible.Anybody ever heard this before? Or am I being totally blasphemous?

terry · Post by **terry** » Mon Dec 04, 2000 9:57 am

Quote:After the first single, the Byrds played on all their own tracks.

-- Roger McGuinn, Byrds FAQ

markthemd · Post by **markthemd** » Mon Dec 04, 2000 10:11 am

Never happened ,RM was emulating the sounds of the valves opening and closing on a alto saxaphone .He and the Cros were listening to a lot of Ravi Shankar and John Coltrane.

Roger's playing, was these two styles thrown into the blender and spit back at the world in McGuinn fashion.

The first session guy was Clarence White and he played on Younger than Yesterday.
The next guy was Hugh Masakela on 'So you Want to be a Rock and Roll Star.'
Hugh got the nod after the Monterey Festival and played the 'real ' trumpet solo

rick12dr · Post by **rick12dr** » Mon Dec 04, 2000 12:59 pm

I think "R and R Star was recorded Before
Monterey.....

Don Miller · Post by **Don Miller** » Tue Dec 05, 2000 9:43 am

If you listen to the Coltrane recording of "India" its real clear where the riff and solo for 8MH came from...

markthemd · Post by **markthemd** » Tue Dec 05, 2000 10:32 am

Don you could be correct on that ,I did not look it up ...figured you or Tomcat would know that one ,and when Clarence first soloed on YTY
I think it was on 'Time Between'

At last I can find out which Coltrane disc to get and where the 'influence ' is from ...thanks Don Miller.You didn't happen to drive a Ford Falcon in the early 1970's did you ?

Don Miller · Post by **Don Miller** » Tue Dec 05, 2000 8:06 pm

Clarence played on Girl with No Name and Time Between...first time he popped up on a Byrds record... he was on Notorious Byrd Bros,Sweetheart of the Rodeo,and then became an actual Byrd for Dr. Byrds...

Nope, Mark...no Falcon in the early 70s...musta been that other guy...

rick12dr · Post by **rick12dr** » Tue Dec 05, 2000 9:41 pm

Crosby said in "Hit Parader" mag back in the 60s
that there were 2 Coltrane LPs they listened to,
Africa Brass and India. I think maybe "Impressions" was listed as well, though that may be the LP one of those tunes is on.

Don Miller · Post by **Don Miller** » Tue Dec 05, 2000 10:54 pm

The "Impressions" album includes the tune "India"

rick12dr · Post by **rick12dr** » Wed Dec 06, 2000 10:06 pm

No, Mark, you must be thinking of the red Falcon wagon we had at the resort[a '68]. Remember,
"ta-da-Dump, ta-da-Dump, Ta-Da Dump, Dump Dump"...
and one red tractor. Oh, where was I? Oh, yeah,Thanks, Don Miller, I knew that "Impressions"
and "India" were related there somewhere.Geez, Imagine, riding in a Winnebago in late '65,
with a reel to reel run thru a Showman amp, with Coltrane and Ravi Shankar on endless replay,
with Croz' endless supply of Acapulco Gold, or whatever, oh, man.Must have been quite the scene.

admin · Post by **admin** » Thu Dec 07, 2000 1:31 pm

The influence that led to this great song is most interesting. This is a great bit of lead work on a 12-string to be sure. Does anyone know if it was done in real time or if it was sped up to some extent? I am not suggesting that Roger couldn't play this with his eyes closed, but I am curious as to whether we have any additional information from the sound engineer or Roger himself that has been made public.

markthemd · Post by **markthemd** » Thu Dec 07, 2000 1:36 pm

REAL time ,I've seen him too many times and he always pulls this one off .

Lately I've really enjoyed the acoustic version .

A nice take off the electric ,similar yet different .Kind of like Clapton and Layla

blckout420 · Post by **blckout420** » Thu Dec 07, 2000 8:39 pm

My band has played this song for years. When we learned it , the hardest thing was getting the slopbucket rythmn part. These guys must have been so freaking stoned when they recorded it! Ya gotta love it!
At one point I used to play the solo note for note (now we go crazy when we play it!). It was the strangest guitar solo I ever learned.

leep · Post by **leep** » Sat Dec 16, 2000 4:11 am

The first version of the song was recorded by the Byrds on 12/22/65 at RCA studios, but wasn't officially released because of their recording contract with Columbia Records. This first, slower, raw, opium-like version showed up on the bootleg "Never Before", but was never trully released until the 20-bit remastered version appeared on Columbia's 1996 reissue of Fifth Dimension. It's worth hearing if you haven't already.

Rob_Ashford · Post by **Rob_Ashford** » Wed Jan 24, 2001 4:05 pm

In parts ,it sounds double-tracked to me. My band used to play it too, me on the old RM370 coool. Rob Ashford