Help me fellow 4002 owners

dswp · Post by **dswp** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:33 pm

John's Wal sounds great. I just wish that I had John's asymmetry to play it upside down.

jps · Post by **jps** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:56 pm

"John I played a bass like that only it was a righty"

I played a bass like that only it was a lefty, oh yeah, it was John's bass I played righty, very nice bass!

bassduke49 · Post by **bassduke49** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:20 pm

Hey Jeff, were you able to sell your Cheyenne with the toasters? I was seriously thinking about it, then I ordered a BlueBurst Cheyenne and forgot about watching your progress. Curious minds want to know.

leftybass · Post by **leftybass** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:31 pm

I might clarify that in the pic my Wal is strung for upside down right-hand stringing, this was the method of the previous owner..it is now strung for actual left-handed playing by me.

jps · Post by **jps** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:50 pm

Paul,

The bass didn't sell.

If anyone is interested I will consider any reasonable offer.

bobcat · Post by **bobcat** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:52 pm

$20.00!!!

Hahaha, just kidding.

Oh, and that Wal is absolutely gorgeous. Wait, what am I talking about . . . ALL Wals are absolutely gorgeous.

gregson1 · Post by **gregson1** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 2:47 pm

I emailed John about seven years ago asking him if there were any pickup parts to be had for the 4002, as mine was under restoration at that time. I also asked about trussrod covers, particularly those with the 'Model 4002' on them. I also enquired about pickguards, but he told me there was nothing available. Not even a bobbin, which I also requested because I thought I might be able to have a pickup rewound.

John told me at the time, as he has since on this and in other forums, that the 4002 pickup was very unique and that it was 'bifiliar', constructed this way to allow for the Lo-Z output. In looking at the pickups on my own 4002, I can tell you that they are nothing like the HB1's. In comparing the 4002 and 4004, I find the 4002 much quieter, but brighter--maybe even more precise. Someone commented on the string sound you can get through them, which I have also heard. They also have a bit of midrange to them, which I like to roll of about a third, using the neck pickup Tone control. The 4004 is deeper and fuller. The pickup placement on the basses probably impact the tone of each bass more that the pickups themselves.

The weight of my 4002 is just over 10 lbs. The weight of the 4004Cii is right around 8.5 lbs.

Going back to the original question, I'd say that at some point that the bass went through an electrical overhaul at Chandler Guitars. Maybe they recall doing the work and maybe even have the original parts, or possibly know what happened to them?

rickfan60 · Post by **rickfan60** » Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:10 pm

The pickups are punchy and very clean but can muster a sweet Rick growl when provoked. I used to play Rush tunes on mine.

Yes, the 4004 is fuller and deeper but less defined. The 4002 is very crisp sounding and I have found that sloppy play (I have LOTS of that) is tolerated much better by the "2". I don't have to compress the 2 nearly as much as I have to compress my other Ricks. Transients and pops are nearly nonexistant. If the strings hit the pickups they are only striking Tolex not metal poles. The quiet pickups make th 4002 an excellent studio/recording bass.