Colouring in.....

ozover50 · Post by **ozover50** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:09 pm

Seeing Paul's wonderful refins, I'm prompted to start considering the possibilities myself. The hardest part for me would be deciding on the colour.

We've read opinions on some colours here - green in particular, so let's assume you have a Rick for restoration - what would be your choice? Also, would it be a burst, transparent finish or solid colour?

Am I allowed to set some ground rules here? Too bad, because I'm going to anyway. You can have any guards you like and any of the knobs available - standard, vintage or oven. You can also have the fretboard refinished if you like. Any type of vibrato that will fit is also permitted.

But please let's stay away from the constantly regurgitated TRC arguments! You can only have what is currently on your guitar or one that is available for exchange through RIC, OK?

You may prefer a finish that is no longer available, like Monty Brown, Autumnglo or Azureglo. Alternately you may like the idea of something wild and outlandish that perhaps suits your personality.

What say you, fans of the Curmudge?

kcole4001 · Post by **kcole4001** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:05 pm

How about a PERMANENT white for my aged '77 4001, which is now dangerously close to a washed out banana yellow (having passed through "cream" many smoke filled nights ago).
If it had white binding that purple would be first choice.

incubus2432 · Post by **incubus2432** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:13 pm

I'm a lime green fan so I'd go with something slightly brighter than the trans-green currently available and have it fade to a bright yellow at the center. It would be done to a 4004 Laredo. Black hardware with black/silver TRC (I secured black hardware for my JetGlo Laredo so I believe it is within your rules). LemonLimeGlo!

This is with the understanding that I already have my 4004LK and 4004Ci which satisfy my need for a "natural" finish and I have a 4004 Laredo JetGlo with black hardware which is at Paul's shop now awaiting his magic touch......it's getting the fretboard refinished in JetGlo for a pseudo-Blackstar look. So basically the lime green wouldn't be my first choice but it would be my next choice.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:43 pm

I have always thought a Tangerine Burst would be pretty spectacular in the outlandish color department.

It would have just a hint of tangerine at the center, with lots of maple showing through. The edges would be a bright, sunny tangerine orange, still slightly translucent so you could see a bit of grain as well.

I'm a big fan of the "Rick fade"--the headstock with a dark band top and bottom and the center section of the neck being pale with the top and bottom edges having the darker tones again.

Gold guards, of course. Maybe gold anodized like an old Combo?

I might want to try--if it was a 330 or one of the solidbodies--doing a two-knob wiring scheme with push-pull pots with chrome knobs, just for something different.

I just acquired a pair of '57 NOS "Flying Saucer" knobs, from which I'm going to make a mold and make some in different colors: Ivory, dark red, black. These would look pretty cool in pairs, but they are too fussy to use four.

Then, of course, there's always Melissa Turquoise Metallic (nice ring, don't you think?) which I'm going to do on one of my guitars eventually--I don't think I've got the guitar just yet.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:45 pm

Kevin, a pure white is possible, with PPG varnish, as it's a non-yellowing formula. RIC can't use it because of excessive VOC, but small refinishers like me can, and do. I use it on all my refins.

shinynewtoy · Post by **shinynewtoy** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:50 pm

Here's mine... almost a military green like Ken Swearingen's faded JG 4003 that he sold a while back. I tried to post a pic but it's a .bmp and I can't make it small enough. I just like it and I don't know why. This would be an S or V63 with chrome hardware, black guard and black-and-silver TRC. However...

Just like Brian I have a first choice though... V63, white plastic and chrome hardware, and a deep, almost honey Mapleglo. Now to find 2 beater V63s and convince the wife I have to have them!

squid · Post by **squid** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:12 pm

I can't resist this kind of thing. My current fantasy finish is a "Blackburst" -- basically a transparent black finish fading to a grey centre. I don't know how this would actually play out on a maple bodied guitar, but indulge me a little bit and assume that it would work out okay. I'd put it on a 330 with humbuckers and an Accent vibrato tailpiece. The guards would be switched out for a vintage silver type. The knobs would be Burns-type replacements. I'd probably just switch the TRC for a standard white on black replacement. Gotta stay on the up and up!

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:14 pm

It'd work John...I have done some sample chips of exactly that type of finish.

squid · Post by **squid** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:27 pm

Paul, it was actually your black and white photo of Melibee's Purpleburst that got me thinking about a "Blackburst". It would work, eh? Hmmm. Perhaps it's time to start looking for a 330 MG HB VB.

alanz · Post by **alanz** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:55 pm

Some of these are ideas I had for my refin with Paul; the blackburst is one I particularly considered but since my 4003 had black binding we thought a blackburst might not be as advantageous.

I had pondered in an email to the GF back when the color was being finalized that maybe a tangerine burst with black hardware would be ultra-bitchin' but she had a different opinion so I went with what became the Blasphemous Transparent BronzeGlo finished 1985 4003V05PWAZ.

ozover50 · Post by **ozover50** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:03 pm

And a great finish it is too, Alan!

I have many ideas in my head but Paul has touched on one area that I would definitely like to incorporate - electronic simplicity. Single volume control, single tone control and 3 way switch for pickup selection or push-pulls on both pots - simple on/off selection. Hi gain at the bridge and toaster or maybe humbucker at the neck.

I like the idea of solid polar white (including fretboard) or perhaps "Icecreamglo" - both with chrome fittings and 650 style knobs. Or a nice deep blue (Azureglo?), again with chrome. I like the sound of John's "Blackburst", too - with chrome.

Then again, Paul's "Copperglo" has grabbed me from day one......

Arrrgggghhhhhh!!!!

alanz · Post by **alanz** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:08 pm

Personally, I think metallics and transparent finishes are the bee's knees; metallics for the dazzle and transparent for the woodworking accent. Solid color finishes don't generally do anything for me.

A guitar is made of wood; the finish should at least reflect that fact if not accentuate it.

melibreits · Post by **melibreits** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:56 pm

Something I would love to see is a 360 or 381 in pearlescent white (like the Cadillac SUV's), with pearl-flake looking pickguards, and perhaps gold hardware.... And of course, checkered binding. Yum!

stubby · Post by **stubby** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:28 pm

I still stick with an earlier post I had for a black and tan-a "Guinnessglo-in-reverse" if you will. Tan on the inside, bursting out into a soft charcoal black on the outside edges. But what colour pickguards?

melibreits · Post by **melibreits** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:32 pm

Would look great with gold.... I like gold guards!