Have You Seen Her Face

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No shades with that one though.
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The guitar's wearing one.
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366/12, Christian? I see no comb or slider or holes for them. Is it just a fuzzy photo or what???
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Hi Paul- Thanks for writing! Yes, it's a replacement pickguard; upper & lower! When I got the guitar in 1980, it only had the remnants of the converter parts attached; This was just before the new Ricky boom, Petty, REM, and all, and had a hard time finding one. I was just 20 at the time, and didn't think about collectability or anything like that! It was there (At Guitar Center in San Francisco), and I bought it for $471 without case!! Although I grew up in the Burlingame/San Mateo area, I had been living near Seattle since '76, and was just down doing some work with my Dad on our old house. We come from an airline family, so were able to travel quite cheaply. In fact, I BOUGHT A SEAT for my new Ricky on a United 727-200; NO WAY was this guitar going baggage! After I got it home, played it for a couple months, I scratch built a new pickguard out of white plexiglass, and replaced it. I of course saved the other three scratchplate parts. The only other piece that it had was that thin metal strip along the vertical part of the pickguard; there was no lever or converter comb on the instrument when I got it. Then very cheesily (Wasn't the craftsman then that I am now!) plugged all the holes where the old converter parts attached with coloured putty (Hope you guys aren't cringing too bad; I was just 20 years old then!) Of course now, if I still had her, I would have sought out all the parts; converter comb etc, and brought her up to stock standards. Otherwise the guitar remained unchanged (Except for a complete re-fret around '87) for the whole time I had it. Very dependable axe; always stayed in tune. Anyone who ever came near the instrument who wasn't familiar with The Beatles or The Byrds or anything else, was always enamoured with the sound. NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF MUSIC THEY WERE INTO! Fascinating. Thanks! Christian
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> I BOUGHT A SEAT for my new Ricky on
> a United 727-200; NO WAY was this
> guitar going baggage!

Between this & buying the Carl Wilson model & a Janglebox, what I want to know is WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR MONEY FROM? <g>

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Dad was an airline pilot for United Airlines from 1952-89 (DC-3, DC-4, DC-6, DC-7, CV-340, 737, & 747) and we got to fly for next to nothing; the seat I bought for my Ricky (I just can't say "RIC", it sounds like "RISS"!) from SFO to SEA cost about 10 bucks in 1980. My new Ricky and janglebox are being funded by the insurance settlement I'm receiving for our house that we lost in a fire (See attach) Hope this answers your questions! Best, Christian PS- The only reason my Ricky didn't make it is because she was upstairs in my workshop awaiting bridge work. Image
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That's a terrible way to fund new gear. I was being sarcastic, apologies if that was a bit insensitive of me.

When did you leave the Bay Area, perhaps we shared a bill somewhere?

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NO STRAIN AT ALL Buddy! Didn't take it that way, and thank you for your cordial follow up. The fire was tough, but doing my best to move on with things. (I also lost an original "Byrds live at the Fillmore in '66 poster-Yikes!) The important thing is, is that no one was hurt. I was only 15 when I moved up to the Northwest with my family, (I started playing at age 17) and never have played music in the Bay Area; sure would like to someday though! Thanks again, Christian
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Christian, it sounds like your dad flew most of the Douglas airliner series. I noticed you didn't list the DC-8, -9, & -10. Perhaps he didn't get type ratings in those planes because he was flying the Boeings later in his career. Aviation is my other great love, apart from jangly guitar music. I'm a 3rd generation pilot, and I make ends meet by working in aircraft engine design (piston-engines only). Gotta fund that Rickenbacker habit somehow!
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Hi Jeff- Great to hear from another aircraft enthusiast! Yeah, Dad flew the second to the last United DC-6B trip in 1970 (I got to fly on the very last one) And yes, he never flew the DC-8 or 10 (United never operated the DC-9, but it would have looked nice in their '60's livery! I found a picture of the Byrds walking away from a TWA CV-880. Classic! Thanks for the post, and if you like, please join our web group "The Boxart Den" at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Box-Art I restore classic model kit box tops from the '50's-'70's, and we have over 1,500 titles available now as prints. We have almost every airliner kit box top ever made! Sorry for the bad image, but we're pretty linited to attachment size here! Take care, ChristianImage
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Hmm, more Rick owners with pilot dads.My dad was with Northwest from about 1950 till 1980.He flew DC-3, DC- 4, DC-6, DC-7,and briefly, DC-10.
Also Lockheed turboprop Electra.Then, the Boeings; 707/320,720,and finally 747.Things had to get quiet around the house every 6 months when he was studying the manuals,which were like 5-6 inches or more thick.Real intense stuff.I got to fly on some of his flights a few times when I was a kid, back when they'd actually let you into the cockpit to see what was going on.He retired as a senior 747 captain in 1980.
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Post by mark_telfer »

Here is a Henry Diltz picture from Corbis showing the two Country Gents together at the Magic Mountain Music Festival on June 3 1967. Note that Hugh Masekela is playing, so presumably this is Have You Seen Her Face.

http://pro.corbis.com (larger image available on site by searching Byrds Magic Mountain)

Was Roger's Country Gent a later model than David's? If so, did it have different pickups, black felt instead of red and one mute instead of two?
"But the man has a 47-string guitar." (Grace Slick on Paul Kantner's attempt to tune his 366/12 during a Winterland show of October 31 1969).
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Post by chingnchime »

What am I missing here? What did Hugh Masekela have to do with HYSHF? I don't recall any horns on that song.
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Post by mark_telfer »

There weren't any horns on the HYSHF record, but if you study the Magic Mountain Music Festival pictures on Corbis, you will see Hugh Masekela on stage while Roger plays both his 370/12 and his Gretsch.

So if the Rickenbacker song was So You Want To Be A Rock 'n' Roll Star, I am surmising that the Gretsch song was HYSHF, because a trumpet on Hey Joe seems a bit unlikely.
"But the man has a 47-string guitar." (Grace Slick on Paul Kantner's attempt to tune his 366/12 during a Winterland show of October 31 1969).
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Which six string do you suppose Roger used for the lead on Notorious'"Tribal Gathering"? I've always thought it was one of the coolest sounds...
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