Sheena,
I just tried YouTube, but came up with nothing.
Sir Paul On Larry King Live
OUCH Steve! Just my opinion, but that doesn't sound like a "nuturer" to me. You also have to appreciate Kevin not biting on your hook. He just ignored it. Some killers have some class. Good for you Kevin.
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To bring this back to a semi-related topic, I think what we are obligated to do is minimize the damage we leave behind. If we're going to cut down trees for things like homes, firewood and guitars (told you it was semi-related) then we need to make sure that we leave enough forest for the next generation and plant extra to make up for what we use.
The same is true for any other resource we use.
And, not to get personal, but I don't hunt, don't want to hunt and as long as grocery stores are open and hunting requires being up way too early in the morning, I ain't gonna hunt. But I know a lot of people who do hunt and they do it for a lot more than the two reasons mentioned earlier.
Ultimately, we can't talk about being kind to animals and trash each other - we ARE each other.
To wrap up the two kinds of people line though, one of my geek freinds thinks this is the funniest joke in the world.
"There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who can count in binary and those who can't".
I kind of like it, too.
The same is true for any other resource we use.
And, not to get personal, but I don't hunt, don't want to hunt and as long as grocery stores are open and hunting requires being up way too early in the morning, I ain't gonna hunt. But I know a lot of people who do hunt and they do it for a lot more than the two reasons mentioned earlier.
Ultimately, we can't talk about being kind to animals and trash each other - we ARE each other.
To wrap up the two kinds of people line though, one of my geek freinds thinks this is the funniest joke in the world.
"There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who can count in binary and those who can't".
I kind of like it, too.
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Suffice it to say that I love animals, but I do not put that love above my love for humanity.
Here's where I get back on topic, The McCartneys obviously have a higher purpose to their actions. I just wish Mrs McCartney would lighten up just a little and present a much less aggressive face to her activities.
Activists must at some point realise that you don't need to exhibit passive aggression to get your point across.
You will catch far more bees with honey than you ever will with vinegar.
This forum is a great place to discuss all topics of common interest. Hopefully somewhere the threads can all be traced back to a starting point where either Rickenbackers or artists who made them famous are the catalyst of the discussion.
Here's where I get back on topic, The McCartneys obviously have a higher purpose to their actions. I just wish Mrs McCartney would lighten up just a little and present a much less aggressive face to her activities.
Activists must at some point realise that you don't need to exhibit passive aggression to get your point across.
You will catch far more bees with honey than you ever will with vinegar.
This forum is a great place to discuss all topics of common interest. Hopefully somewhere the threads can all be traced back to a starting point where either Rickenbackers or artists who made them famous are the catalyst of the discussion.
“We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.” - Albert Einstein
"You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother" - Albert Einstein
"You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother" - Albert Einstein
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxOK5RGhcfg&search=mccartney%20seals
Here's the Macca seal thing. I didn't watch to see if it's complete.
Here's the Macca seal thing. I didn't watch to see if it's complete.
Thanks Paul. I know some folks were looking for this. Personally I had my fill of Mrs. McCartney. BTW, I emailed Danny Williams about his take on the debate and where to find this information that the McCartney's didn't seem to have. I'll keep you posted.
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This is fresh off the AP wire:
NEW YORK (AP) - Paul McCartney, in a letter to the governor of Arizona, says he doesn't want drug developer Covance Inc. (CVD) to open an animal testing lab in the state where he owns a ranch.
Covance submitted plans in October to build a 400,000-square-foot facility on a 38-acre parcel for clinical animal testing in Chandler, Ariz. The company says the testing is mandated by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for new drugs.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), however, claims that an undercover video filmed last year shows abuse of monkeys in Covance's Vienna, Va., laboratory. That video is posted online at .http://www.CovanceCruelty.com
"Arizona has a special place in my heart," McCartney writes in the letter to Gov. Janet Napolitano. He explains that his Arizona ranch is where his wife Linda spent her last days before she died of breast cancer in 1998.
"It is for her and all of us who want to protect animals from harm that I am writing to ask you not to let Covance, an animal testing laboratory, set up shop in Chandler," the former Beatle writes in a letter dated March 3.
McCartney also cites a health concern. Covance operated under the name Hazelton Research Products in 1989 when several hundred primates at a Virginia lab were killed by the Ebola virus.
Laurene Isip, a spokeswoman for Covance, responded to McCartney's letter with a statement sent to The Associated Press on Wednesday.
"It is unfortunate that PETA is using Mr. McCartney to spread their false allegations against our company. Covance conducts government required medical research to find medicines for diseases like breast cancer, diabetes, heart disease, Alzheimer's, and many others."
Jeanine L'Ecuyer, a spokeswoman for Gov. Napolitano, said the letter was received, but it was a matter for the city of Chandler. She added, "it's a situation that the governor's office will continue to monitor."
Barry Broome, president of the Greater Phoenix Economic Council, said in October the council was "really excited" about Covance coming to Arizona.
But resident Kathy Urrea said, "As much as I love this community and am happy to be in Arizona, I do have to say if Covance does move to Chandler, I will consider leaving Chandler."
NEW YORK (AP) - Paul McCartney, in a letter to the governor of Arizona, says he doesn't want drug developer Covance Inc. (CVD) to open an animal testing lab in the state where he owns a ranch.
Covance submitted plans in October to build a 400,000-square-foot facility on a 38-acre parcel for clinical animal testing in Chandler, Ariz. The company says the testing is mandated by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for new drugs.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), however, claims that an undercover video filmed last year shows abuse of monkeys in Covance's Vienna, Va., laboratory. That video is posted online at .http://www.CovanceCruelty.com
"Arizona has a special place in my heart," McCartney writes in the letter to Gov. Janet Napolitano. He explains that his Arizona ranch is where his wife Linda spent her last days before she died of breast cancer in 1998.
"It is for her and all of us who want to protect animals from harm that I am writing to ask you not to let Covance, an animal testing laboratory, set up shop in Chandler," the former Beatle writes in a letter dated March 3.
McCartney also cites a health concern. Covance operated under the name Hazelton Research Products in 1989 when several hundred primates at a Virginia lab were killed by the Ebola virus.
Laurene Isip, a spokeswoman for Covance, responded to McCartney's letter with a statement sent to The Associated Press on Wednesday.
"It is unfortunate that PETA is using Mr. McCartney to spread their false allegations against our company. Covance conducts government required medical research to find medicines for diseases like breast cancer, diabetes, heart disease, Alzheimer's, and many others."
Jeanine L'Ecuyer, a spokeswoman for Gov. Napolitano, said the letter was received, but it was a matter for the city of Chandler. She added, "it's a situation that the governor's office will continue to monitor."
Barry Broome, president of the Greater Phoenix Economic Council, said in October the council was "really excited" about Covance coming to Arizona.
But resident Kathy Urrea said, "As much as I love this community and am happy to be in Arizona, I do have to say if Covance does move to Chandler, I will consider leaving Chandler."
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"You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother" - Albert Einstein
"You do not really understand something unless you can explain it to your grandmother" - Albert Einstein
Not to tell Paul what his priorities should be, but if he stopped a lot of this stuff he would have more time to release albums more than once every 3-4 years.
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Well... what can i say?
Yes it hurts me to see and hear about oncomice and other laboratory animals... those nice furry creatures who die to save people's lives.
And while i kind of agree with Dane's comments in general... call me egoistical, but the situation changes a lot when it happens to your parents, husbands/wives, friends, or - God forbid - children... IMHO.
Yes it hurts me to see and hear about oncomice and other laboratory animals... those nice furry creatures who die to save people's lives.
And while i kind of agree with Dane's comments in general... call me egoistical, but the situation changes a lot when it happens to your parents, husbands/wives, friends, or - God forbid - children... IMHO.
Nothing will get you dead quicker than being deadly serious about yourself.