String spacing on 4004 Laredos/Cheyennes

jeff_ulmer · Post by **jeff_ulmer** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 1:12 pm

Is the string spacing the same on the Laredo as the 4003s down in the pickup area? I'm looking at one of these as an option, and am questioning whether it would be possible to stick a horseshoe on it (not that I would, but I want to know if it's an option).

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 5:31 pm

the pickups for the 4004, 4003, 4001, 4005, toasters high gain, horseshoe, humbuckers... etc are all based on a bridge width of 2 1/16" and a nut width of 1 11/16" ...

ricnvolved · Post by **ricnvolved** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 7:27 pm

Jeff Ulmer-- I have an original 4004 Cheyenne Series I and I do not recommend changing out the pick-ups. (I am assuming the Laredo uses the same ones.) The humbuckers make this bass what it is; it's not supposed to sound like a 4003.

jeff_ulmer · Post by **jeff_ulmer** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 7:21 am

I doubt I would do anything to it if I got it (considering I hate it when other people butcher their instruments), but it's good to know one's options.

I'm also curious in the difference in sound between the original pickup layout and the current one. I assume the maple fretboard would make the instrument a bit brighter.

PS. I guess this is the Jeff thread!

johnhall · Post by **johnhall** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 9:00 am

The horseshoe wil not work on a Laredo or Cheyenne. The bridge design allows the strings to be much closer to the body, which is to say that the pickup would virtually be out the back of the guitar. The 4004's do have variable string spacing but that's no going to help you in this case.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 9:15 am

but you could put high gain or toasters with only a screw driver and a soldering iron ...

And this would be totally reverseable

jeff_ulmer · Post by **jeff_ulmer** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 9:46 am

Thanks John. Since this was only a wild musing, I'm not too worried about it. I am glad for a definitive answer though.

cheyenne · Post by **cheyenne** » Sat Mar 15, 2003 3:40 pm

What about the Lemmy Signature? I saw an episode on, believe or not, the Drew Carey show,and Lemmy himself was playing what seems to be a signature prototype. And it definatley had a horseshoe pickup. I've never seen one in real life but the Lemmy signature seems to be based on the 4004 design. I know what I saw because it brought me to my feet in like .000000001 of a second.

johnhall · Post by **johnhall** » Sun Mar 16, 2003 10:38 am

It's only a horseshoe pickup cover screwed on to the front of the bass, no pickup below. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about.

cheyenne · Post by **cheyenne** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:34 pm

I apologize John, just passing on what I saw.

dave4004 · Post by **dave4004** » Mon Mar 17, 2003 7:14 pm

And here it is: http://www.pdfworld.co.jp/tyson/4004.htm