Awesome Entwistle video

ricosound · Post by **ricosound** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:59 am

I'm with Ronn, I can't listen to Jaco and make sense out of it. I have all kinds of Weather Report and Jaco recordings, and I can't make it through a whole song.

I would consider Entwistle and McCartney to be peers and pioneers. Squire and Geddy both have cited Entwistle as an influence and to the original intent of this thread, he must be acknowledged as one of the inovaters.

iamthebassman · Post by **iamthebassman** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:03 am

Years ago I got his instruction (cassette)tapes. It came with a booklet in which he describes how to get his sound. Biamp of course, with a clean low-end, and distorted high-end.
I can remember the exact first time I heard "The Real Me", I was just starting to learn bass and was totally blown away. Still am.
When I first saw "The Kids are Alright" with the Smothers Bros. performance of "My Generation", with The Ox staring off into space during his solo, looking bored, I thought that was the coolest thing. Our encore is "My Generation", and I try to do the same thing.

henny · Post by **henny** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:08 am

John Wetton used to be a fantastic player, and great singer.

I recently acquired John Wetotn: Live At The Underground DVD - recorded in 2005.

He wasn't great, at times it seems the years have caught up with him. The guitarist constantly had to give him shrewd looks as if to say: "Get a grip, you're playing the wrong note!"

Also, half of the tracks are overdubbed. Not impressed at all... Lets just hope he's better if Asia go ahead with the original reuinion tour.

... If we're talking favourite bass players, Wilbur Bascomb.

You CANNOT beat that bass sound on Jeff Beck's Led Boots... truly fantastic.

teeder · Post by **teeder** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:58 am

I'm getting in a little late, but here some of my favorites, in order of influence and with a couple standout performances for me.
1. McCartney / The reason I play bass / everything!
2. JPJ / Zep II all the way!
3. Entwistle / Live at Leeds / Quadro!
4. Squire / Everything
5. Geddy Lee / Loved 2112!
6. Dennis Dunaway / Early Cooper stuff
7. Jamerson / Everything
8. Jack Bruce
9. Roger Waters
10. Barry Oakley

I guess that will do off the top of my head. I am glad I remembered Dunaway. He had some great Rock bass!

tomg · Post by **tomg** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:03 am

My top players from an "influential on my playing" perspective:

1. Paul McCartney
2. Dee Murray
3. Bruce Thomas
4. Paul Simonon
5. Garry Tallent
6. Doug Stegmeyer
7. James Jamerson

I like listening to other players like Geddy Lee or Entwhistle, but I'm not really interested the styles as a player.

I liked the video, fwiw. It was not only thrilling to have that perspective, but it also made me sad that a guy with such talent and skill died prematurely.

I also thought "geez John, that's a bad haircut"

iamthebassman · Post by **iamthebassman** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:37 am

I'm glad to see Dee Murray getting some mention, he's the one who got me interested in playing bass, and yes, I DO own a white Fender Jazz

http://www.deemurray.com/

henry5 · Post by **henry5** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:04 am

Seth, Jah Wobble does indeed deserve a mention. "Visions of You" with Sinead O'Connor is just marvellous, amongst many others. Also Armand Sabal-Lecco is a personal favourite player of mine. The more you think, the more you come up with...Gary Thain I love. And John McVie...Stuart Zender, and Cliff Williams of AC/DC (if you're going to play simply, that's the way to do it). I also love Joey DeMaio, although I may be one of the few! If you're going to be over the top, you may as well be way over the top...

Have to agree with some of the earlier comments about Adam Clayton; when I was younger and more technique obsessed I thought he was hopeless. But take away any of his lines from most U2 songs, and there's hardly anything else left. Beautiful Day or With or Without You or New Year's Day spring to mind...I now find myself really admiring what he does, and on occasion trying to apply some of that myself.

teeder · Post by **teeder** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:46 am

How about some Who with their Ricks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEv3FszSUyE&search=%26quot%3Bthe%20who%26quot%3B

teeder · Post by **teeder** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:57 am

Here's another classic!
A favorite warm up song for the Who during this time period, which also feature Entwistle on lead vocals!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za1DWb3dTNo&search=%26quot%3Bthe%20who%26quot%3B

teeder · Post by **teeder** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:17 am

Then after they're warmed up!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsUmeiMiQz8&search=%26quot%3Bthe%20who%26quot%3B

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:47 am

How 'bout another top 10?

1- Paul McCartney
2- Bruce Foxton
3- Carol Kaye
4- Jaco Pastorius
5- Paul Chambers
6- Colin Greenwood
7- John Paul Jones
8- Ray Brown
9- Chris Kuffner
10- Michael Manring

charlyg · Post by **charlyg** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:29 am

I took some lessons from Carol just before the 94 earthquake. She moved to Colorado afterwards. She is back now but I haven't hooked up with her.

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:40 am

Whoa, how cool Charly! What kind of stuff did she teach you?

pekka · Post by **pekka** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:24 am

Anybody heard of...

Doug Rauch?

He barely ever gets a mention but I really love his style. He was one of the slap bass pioneers in the early seventies and some say he pioneered the double thumbing technique. I don't usually care about slapping but Rauch's sound was very greasy and slippery. He had a Fender Jazz with a Gibson mudbucker at the next position and probably had the bass wired in stereo. He played with Santana, Lenny White, Chepito Areas and Billy Cobham, to mention a few. Recommeneded listening: Santana's "Caravanserai", "Lotus" and Lenny White's "Venusian Summer". He died in the late seventies and people I have read speaking highly about him include Mark King, Pino Palladino, Jeff Berlin, Mike Shrieve and Jonas Helborg.

Glad to see Bernard Edwards and Tom Petersson on people's lists among other giants.

atomic_punk · Post by **atomic_punk** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:15 pm

Tom is very high on my list. Seeing him for the first time changed the course of my life.