Toaster pick-up questions....

jps · Post by **jps** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 4:20 pm

...they do.

The RI horseshoe pickup uses Alnico magnet slugs in the bobbin in place of pole pieces, not the rubberized magnets under the bobbin.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:41 pm

my 73 had a plastic base ... as did my 74 ...

johnallg · Post by **johnallg** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:55 pm

Jps - are you talking about the reissues or the origionals? Do you know the reissue winding resistance?

"The RI horseshoe pickup uses Alnico magnet slugs in the bobbin in place of pole pieces, not the rubberized magnets under the bobbin."

Hate to sound anal, but in the hinderland of SW Michigan we don't see any old Ricks nor 4001V63s either.

BTW, my daughter is in Erie and I emailed her about your gig tomorrow. Being tonight is Friday and she's 25 I didn't get a reply yet!

Go figure!

ben_brown · Post by **ben_brown** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:32 pm

Hi guys....This may be off topic but here goes.
I've been searching for my first Ric bass and I need some insight. I'm looking at a new 4003 that comes with a factory installed vintage scatter wound toaster neck pup option. Is this a good choice with the newer bridge high gain pup? How does the 'new' vintage neck pup compare to the new high gains? Is this a good combination?

jnbass · Post by **jnbass** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:36 pm

depends on your taste, or tone requirements

cerrem · Post by **cerrem** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:58 pm

My opinion is that the new toaster for neck position is just too weak... It is at 7.4K and maybe good for guitar but just doen't have have the punch or deepeness I would need for a neck position in a bass...Note that it has 6-POLES by the way...the 6-string one is the same as the bass one...all toaster pups always had 6-poles.. The new high gain sounds much better to me for bass, alittle on the dark side.. The old original toasters for bass were like 12K.... Buy the toaster and have it rewound to 12K ..I hear that is the ticket... i am in the process of doing that now.. I will report my findings to the forum...

Chris

johnallg · Post by **johnallg** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:38 pm

Cerrem, are you saying the 60's 4001 toasters were wound to 12k? I had always heard they were the 7.4k windings, and it wasn't until the 80's toasters that they were wound to 12k.

Ben - Having had the high gain on my 4003 and putting a 7.4k on in its place, I found the tone less aggressive though still in the same vein, with a lot more clarity. E string in the first 5 fret positions are now articulate and with note deliniation whereas they had been indistinct with the high gain. F W I W.

ben_brown · Post by **ben_brown** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:54 pm

Ok...tell me this. Is this new 4003 with the toaster and a vintage silver case options worth $1500. All is brand new still in the box from a dealer with full warranty.

bobcat · Post by **bobcat** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:03 pm

Wouldn't rewinding a reissue toaster to 12K ohms completely change the character of the sound it puts out?

headbanger · Post by **headbanger** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:40 pm

The old original toaster were 7.4K or there abouts. The reissues from 84 to 2000 were more like 12k. The 2000 onward scatterwounds are as close to the originals as you can get (7.4k)

jmh · Post by **jmh** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:11 am

I didn't care for the sound of my factory 2002's toaster. Sounded anemic to me. Having it replaced with a high gain.

ilan · Post by **ilan** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:31 am

Bought a reissue toaster-top last year to replace a non-original hi-gain, couldn't be happier. I hardly ever use the treble pickup, usually I just solo the neck toaster. It has "that Ric sound".

ben_brown · Post by **ben_brown** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:17 am

What does the Vintage Toaster option usually cost when you order it with a new RIC?

ben_brown · Post by **ben_brown** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:31 am

I made a mistake earlier. The Toaster option on a new 4003 with a vintage silver case(new) goes for $1395. Does that sound kosher?

ben_brown · Post by **ben_brown** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:41 am

Pickofthericks.com wants $1295 for a standard 4003 with high gains and a plastic case so for another $100.....