Top of the Line 12 String Rickenbacker

arbiter · Post by **arbiter** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:54 pm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/ ... ingric.jpg
360VP? I consider it top of the line.

epitreture · Post by **epitreture** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:27 am

Thanks for posting them for me John!

craviola990 · Post by **craviola990** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:10 am

Ooh that's pretty Brian! I'm a 360/12 Byrds guy, but that 660 is absolutely gorgeous. Really stunning. Christian (Wishing the 360 neck was even just a tad wider at the nut!!)

admin · Post by **admin** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:24 am

For those who have a 660/12 and a 360/12, I would be interested in hearing your comments with regard to any difference between the two models with regard to the feel of the neck.

leftyguitars · Post by **leftyguitars** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 4:52 am

I have both, I find the 360 near impossible to get my fingers in and the 660 only marginally better. But that's just my hands!

tony_carey · Post by **tony_carey** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:02 am

It's odd (& great) that we're all different! I owned a 660-12 for a week!!! IMHO, the sound was just a shadow of the thinlines, with highs & lows, but no mid......it just didn't compete with my 360V64-12, or 381-12.

Please don't think that I'm knocking you 660 fans, far from it, it's a beautiful gtr, but it's very interesting to note our little differences.

epitreture · Post by **epitreture** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 7:27 am

Peter, I also have a 620/12 and had the same problem with the narrow neck so I put in a 330/12 nut to spread the strings apart a little more and it really helped.

sloop_john_b · Post by **sloop_john_b** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:20 am

Peter, I had a 370/12 Blue Boy that I had lots of difficulty with. The only thing I could ever really play cleanly on it were barre chords. Open chords would always be missing notes from my fingers accidentaly muting something, and forget about riffs.

I really liked the 12 string sound but I couldn't put up with the narrow spacing anymore. My local Manhattan Guitar Center/GCrep was selling a 660/12 Blue Boy, so I headed into the store to try it out. As soon as I wrapped my fingers around it, I had to have it. I traded big for it, but I didn't care.

It's now my favorite guitar, 6 strings included.

As for the sound, I pretty much play it through the Janglebox, always - as I did with the 370/12 as well - so my sound has stayed pretty consistent, even with the switch from 24 frets/higains/semi-hollow to 21 frets/toasters/solidbody.

craviola990 · Post by **craviola990** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:34 am

What's the deal with the 330 nut, and how come the 360's are not fitted with the tad extra spacing, especially when it's a more deluxe instrument as it were? Thanks! Christian

tony_carey · Post by **tony_carey** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:12 am

I might be wrong, but I seem to remember JH posting that the 360's now have the same nut....

The reason that the 360's didn't have it before is because the binding wasn't deemed part of the neck, so with that assumption, the 360 neck was actually treated as slightly narrower than the unbound neck.

craviola990 · Post by **craviola990** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:48 pm

Ok. Thank you Tony! Christian

jdogric12 · Post by **jdogric12** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:02 pm

I owned a 660/12 from '99-'02, then bought one a couple months ago and just sold it to get a 360/12. I realized I had gotten used to the smaller Ric necks. But then again I've been lucky enough to have skinny fingers so I can see how the wide neck is better for most folks.

dean712 · Post by **dean712** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:00 pm

I love my 660/12 - the wider neck is a must for me. I haven't heard a bad Rick 12-string yet, though. Different versions of excellence....

red_rob · Post by **red_rob** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:47 am

Oooh...interesting Brian. I have a 360/12 and it's great but I feel like it would be totally out of this world with a sliver of extra spacing (and I'm far too scared and inept a craftsman to cut my own). I'm gonna get me a 330 nut...

Is the existing nut easy to prize off? what adhesive is used to fix the replacement on?

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 4:49 am

Don't pry it off. Use a wood block and tap it with a hammer. You don't even have to remove the strings--just detune them and move them to either side (use a bit of masking tape to fix the tailpiece in place and to hold the strings on either side of the neck).

One tap and the old nut is off. Then use yellow (Titebond) glue--just a couple of small dabs--to fix the new nut into place and let it dry overnight before carefully reinstalling the strings into their slots and retuning to pitch.