What kind of 4004 is this?

anoukane · Post by **anoukane** » Mon May 08, 2006 12:29 am

I found this one on the Secondhand market. Which model is this? Does it have the classic Ric sound?
Is it possible to play this lefty as a righty?
What is this one worth?
Thanks

jnbass · Post by **jnbass** » Mon May 08, 2006 12:31 am

4004L

$950-1100 USD

cheyenne · Post by **cheyenne** » Mon May 08, 2006 12:45 am

The price is about right, but I believe that is a first generation 4004 Cheyenne.

markbass99 · Post by **markbass99** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:01 am

On sort of a related note, my 4004SPG model, (Scott,Pappas,Gilbert) is supposed to arrive today on the brown truck. It was a little more than what Jared quoted, but then it is the only one of its kind in existance. Anybody else hungry for a walnut sandwich?

cheyenne · Post by **cheyenne** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:04 am

Did someone say sandwich??

How about a maple sandwich with walnut filling??

markbass99 · Post by **markbass99** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:12 am

SWEEEET! Yea , thats what I meant. I've always been kind of a 4001/4003 guy and wouldn't even pay any attention to the other ricks without binding. My eyes have been opened and my juices are flowing (figure of speech). Hope to be plugged in by this afternoon and pumping out sound (noise?)

edski · Post by **edski** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:21 am

Philip, that is indeed a 4004 Ci. Very nice to snag if you can.

The tone is rather more bassy with a 4004...but I find with a pick the Rick clang comes out just fine on these puppys. The are very different from a 4003, however.

rickfan60 · Post by **rickfan60** » Mon May 08, 2006 5:24 am

I know a lefty who is looking for one of those.

incubus2432 · Post by **incubus2432** » Mon May 08, 2006 6:02 am

Philip....I would pass on getting it to use right handed. They aren't that rare that a righty couldn't be found. I'd recommend tracking one down the tone and feel are excellent!

bassduke49 · Post by **bassduke49** » Mon May 08, 2006 6:04 am

Ted's buddy, Mr. X, has a leftie Cii Trans Red that is gorgeous. He noticed that the leftie Cheyennes had a different TRC – back-painted clear Plexi with black lettering and gold background. You can see this, too, on the Cheyenne Ci in the fuzzy photo above. "Normal" (right handed) Cheyennes (both Ci and Cii) have black-plastic TRCs with goldish plated raised lettering. Interesting.

rickaddict · Post by **rickaddict** » Mon May 08, 2006 6:44 am

I saw that too, Paul. Its kinda cool. I would even consider putting a gold vintage TRC on my Cheyenne, only: A) That would mean drilling another hole in the headstock, and B) I don't really pay much attention to my Cheyenne anyway.

I'm kinda envious of lefties. I've noticed that not only do they get the vintage screened TRC on all their basses, but they also get the REAL 60's headstock as seen on this lefty 2004 4003:

Meanwhile, us rightys have to have this weird mutation of a headstock that RIC started making in '97 that kinda looks like the long 60's headstock, but is the same length as the short 70's headstock(photo is of a 2004 4003FL)

anoukane · Post by **anoukane** » Mon May 08, 2006 6:54 am

Thanks for the information guys!

henny · Post by **henny** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:14 pm

Which model is this?

4004Ci - "Cheyenne-One"

Does it have the classic Ric sound?

Ugh... no.

Not a chance in hell does it have the classic Ric sound.

Why? Because 4004s sound dead. You want a deep, warm, plummy tone - go get yourself an EB-0.

If you want crispy-duck-clang-classic-Chris-Squire, get a 4003 or an RM1999.

If you want a bass that's somewhere in the middle, with no clarity, no BITE, a big-*** fat neck with no definitive sound - by all means get it.

My $.2 based on experience.

zoomduck · Post by **zoomduck** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:49 pm

I do'nt know which 4004 you played Mark.....I have a 77 4001 and a 4004 Cii they both sound great !!! The 4004 has all the muscle , it just...." Kicks *** " !!!!!!!!! The neck ? Built to fit a girls hand .

henny · Post by **henny** » Mon May 08, 2006 1:50 pm

4004 Cii, Barry.

A 2004, Trans Red.

Each to their own but there are many people on this forum who agree with me, believe me, they've told me!

And I didn't merely play it. I owned it, gigged it, tried to break it in... they're just useless in my eyes.

OK - well, they look great - that's something.