Rewired ?

herbsman · Post by **herbsman** » Sun May 11, 2003 8:52 am

Hi.. I would like to rewire my 4003 bass so that the bridge pickup comes out of one input jack and the neck pickup comes out of the other input jack and when the pickup selecter is in the central position both pickups play.. would anyone know where I could obtain a circuit diagram to do this..I have never looked inside so am not to sure how it would work out and my skills are ok at soldering.. but would really like to have a go at this..its a shame to see one input jack going to waste.... and I dont have a ric-o-sound device..

admin · Post by **admin** » Sun May 11, 2003 9:16 am

Antony: While this arrangement could be accomplished it seems to me that is would not be practical in that you would have to switch jacks on a frequent basis moving from the neck to the bridge pickup and vice versa as you performances required.

What you are asking for is just exactly what you have with the standard jack at present. Outside of an academic exercise I can't see why you would want to do this.

Forgive me should I have missed your point altogether. I would leave your wiring be. Should you ever wish to sell, you would need to switch this all back stock as well.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Sun May 11, 2003 1:48 pm

I have found that having 2 mono outputs is handy on a 4001 or 4003 ... you can run this singla to different amps outputs mixing boards etc ...

wiring for 2 mono outputs will not comprimise the resale value

admin · Post by **admin** » Sun May 11, 2003 2:05 pm

Antony: One point I did not pick up on when reading your post. You can still use Rick-O-Sound by getting a splitter cable at Radio Shack for under $10. While it will not have the shielding and fidelity of the Rick-O-Sound circuit it will definitely give you a good idea of the potential of the stereo effect.

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Sun May 11, 2003 3:32 pm

I used to run my basses stereo into two different channels of my amp, but it was noisy, picked up lights etc. I had to shield them to do it, does the Ric-O-Sound box eliminate this noise, and preserve or improve the fidelity? I would like to try stereo through two amps but am hesitant considering my previous experience with noise and the resulting lack of fidelity.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Mon May 12, 2003 3:06 am

The best way to run multiple signals is to get a sans amp stomp box ... Geddy Lee uses this ... he runs 3 outs ... one regular, one with more bass and one with distortion ....

Running stereo is a 60's gimmick ... for live preformances it does not add quality ... it adds confusion, clutter, and noise.

A band that I play in fired a guitarist for poor tone and running stereo ... with todays effects you can get any sound you want out of mono ...

mortivan · Post by **mortivan** » Mon May 12, 2003 5:31 am

Hey Jeff,

A band I know had a bassist with a bass POD thing, and, apparently for him, a bewildering assortment of controls. For a seasoned player, this may be OK, but this joker literally spent hours trying to "dial-in" a sound during practice!!

Now, who was that artist that shorted his volume and tone controls 'cause he couldn't be bothered with control fiddling?!

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Mon May 12, 2003 6:03 am

I have the line 6 pod ... It took me a while trying to dial in a good sound ...

the problem is certain patches sound good with head phones ... then some patches sound good in a studio, the some patches sound good a low volume, then some patches sound good live ...

All of the stock patches on a bass or guitar processor SUCK!!! ... you HAVE to make your own ... not everybody has the ear, and patience to work this out ...

I almost returned the pod after a few days ...

But now I love it ...

It can make a mediocre amp good and a good amp better ...

mortivan · Post by **mortivan** » Mon May 12, 2003 7:10 am

..but you didn't "play" with it for an hour during (what was supposed to be) practice (that invloved [delayed] at least 3 other people!!)

Actually, I'm looking at a Line 6 POD (or variation), or SansAmp DI for purchase some time this century to get a driven tubish quality without the space and watts (and $$)...

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Mon May 12, 2003 7:39 am

nope ... I worked it out at home ... we had a guitarist who pulled a stunt like that ... he had different sounds coming out of 3 different speaker cabinets and they all sucked ... he worked on it for 2 or 3 hours ... we justed played songs without him ... he was trying to set up some stereo junk ...

rictified · Post by **rictified** » Mon May 12, 2003 11:32 am

Actually I get a great tone from just my Rics and my SVT's but I would like to try stereo with the Ric-O-Sound box. But I know what you mean about taking a long time to get a good sound,that is why I always use the same amp, with the SVT I always get pretty much what I want with a minimum of knob turning, usually I just make minor adjustments to the low mid or normal mid depending on the room.
Geddy Lee doesn't even use Rics anymore does he? In bass player magazine he is all over the place with a 70's Jazz. Back in the seventies Fenders were known as THE bass to avoid because of quality problems, I laugh when I see the prices on them today, you couldn't give them away back then. If you played fender in the 70's you played a pre-CBS or at least a 60's Fender.