About the Dual Truss Rods in the 4001's

henry5 · Post by **henry5** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:05 pm

Ted, these are guys who generally don't use carbon fibre other than in exceptional cases (for instance in multi-stringed - i.e. 6 upwards - instruments). But to a man, they all dislike dual rods and have said they'd never use them. Obviously I'm all for them; every bass I currently own has them!

kcole4001 · Post by **kcole4001** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:37 pm

My '76 4000 has had the heaviest rounds on it I could find for the last 20 years & the rods have not yet needed adjustment since leaving the factory!
I don't baby it at all (I probably should!) & at the moment I have the action too low: it's choking the sustain, but still there is NO fret buzz!
Try that with a Fender!

Ricks have always been engineered with a different philosophy in mind. I'd venture to say the same about Alembics, but I've never owned one, so I can't be sure.
Some people are just afraid of "different", so it must be wrong or unnecessary.

In the end it comes down to this: the design works, and it works very well. What more do you need to know?

edski · Post by **edski** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:55 pm

ever tried to adjust a Fender Jazz with a twisted neck?

You just learn to live with it. I suppose that it's easier to adjust to with a fretless like mine - I have to raise the e string a bit to minimize the effect of just such a warp. If my J bass had a dual truss, it'd be a better guitar...

rickfan60 · Post by **rickfan60** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:50 pm

That is the beauty of guitar building. There are many ways to get it done.

jps · Post by **jps** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 2:46 pm

Yeah, like Wish basses with no truss rods! But you won't catch me with one.

rickfan60 · Post by **rickfan60** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:02 pm

Also, high-end builders often use many laminations in their necks. I am guessing that is probably even more expensive than building with two rods. When done properly, laminations reduce the chances of necks twisting or warping. One builder I know of believes that using multiple woods also helps to reduce dead spots.

jnbass · Post by **jnbass** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:23 pm

you say potato...

rickaddict · Post by **rickaddict** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:32 am

A Wish bass? Is that like a wish sandwich?

"Have you ever heard of a wish sandwich? A wish sandwich is the kind of a sandwich where you have two slices of bread and you, hee hee hee, wish you had some meat...

Bow bow bow..."

johnallg · Post by **johnallg** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:07 am

Groaner Alert!! Oops, too late!