Thin Lizzy Greatest Hits DVD

loendmaestro · Post by **loendmaestro** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:28 pm

I just finished watching the new Thin Lizzy Greatest Hits DVD that comes out this week on Universal Chronicles (if you'll allow a shameless plug for my employer). It's mostly the "conceptual videos" for a bunch of their singles, a few live tracks from the Live & Dangerous era, & a couple of TV performances. It's a nice collection & Phil plays Rickenbackers on two tracks.

A few observations:

* early videos were WAY cheesy
* Brian Downey is one of the most underrated drummers of all time
* Gary Moore sucks
* Scott Gorham was f***ed up for the entire 70s decade
* Phil's trademark "mirrored pickguard into the spotlight" move came from when he played a 4000 & did that with the pickup cover. Check out the video for The Rocker. Pretty cool.

That's all, just thought I'd share...

winston · Post by **winston** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:24 pm

"* Gary Moore sucks "

Chris,

I have to disagree with you on that comment. Sorry! Gary Moore is one of the greatest guitar players in the world. I have not seen the DVD in question but that aside, nothing will change my opinion of the man.

ozover50 · Post by **ozover50** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:58 pm

Me neither.... GM rocks! Or 'blues' as the case may be......

atomic_punk · Post by **atomic_punk** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:12 pm

He might not have been great in Lizzy, but he definitely does not suck.

I agree with you about Gorham, and every band's early vids are pretty cheesy, ain't they?

loendmaestro · Post by **loendmaestro** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:19 pm

Two words:
"Brian Robertson".

I'm done.

Sucks may have been a bit strong, but overrated may be a more accurate description. A healthy dose of Velveeta is served up with every platter o' Moore.

Though his solo on the studio "Still In Love With You" ain't bad.

Either way, I won't argue regarding opinions from guys of your caliber. You three I respect!

We can all agree on this right?
PHIL LYNOTT IS THE MAN!

Uh, or maybe "was" the man.

winston · Post by **winston** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 4:37 pm

Chris the album Still Got the Blues is in my estimation simply amazing. His solos are tasty and dynamic. George Harrison made a guest appearance, playing slide guitar on That Kind of Woman. Albert Collins and Albert King also play with him on this album, showing their recognition of him as a great artist.

His work with Baker and Bruce on the BBM album Around The Next Dream was a classic Claptonesque performance. He is an absolutely brilliant guitarist IMO.

I am very proud of this Irish man. He has done well.

But having said all of that, I recognize that you have a different opinion of him and although I am disappointed in your criticism of his talent, I will leave you alone to your thoughts.

This is an edit to my original post: I just noticed the respect comment. Thank you Chris. I have deep respect for you as well.

ozover50 · Post by **ozover50** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:12 pm

OMG!! Somebody respects me! Thanks, Chris.

I equally respect you and very importantly, your opinion and right to express it here and for that matter, anywhere else.

Think how boring life would be if there were no such things as differences of opinion and the debate surrounding them. I'd be looking for a sharp knife or a gun if that was the reality!

Cheers, mate!

loendmaestro · Post by **loendmaestro** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:30 pm

You know guys, I've spent many years defending my two heroes Glenn Hughes & Tommy Bolin, so I can dig it.

I do own "Run For Cover" & "Still Got The Blues", as well as his Lizzy output & Gary just doesn't do it for me.

I will say that this is probably the ONLY bass forum where we could have a civilized debate such as this that didn't deteriorate into reactionary, knee jerk, name calling.

A raise a glass to you both (not Steve though - I think I'd have to raise a pitcher to him...ha!) - it's all good.

At least we're all Lizzy fans! We could be having a Creed or Limp Bizkit (shudder) debate!

Take care guys....I'm off to put "Johnny The Fox" on!!!!

atomic_punk · Post by **atomic_punk** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:05 pm

LOL I got into Moore when he came out with "Corridors of Power" and "Victims of the Future", and then went back and found his Lizzy stuff. I saw him open for someone back in the day (It's kinda fuzzy now) and he ROCKED.

Ya gotta admit "Empty Rooms" is pretty good

NO need for name calling here, and there would be NO debate on Bizkit or Creed, they SUCK.

Cheers, Chris! I've got the first one!

winston · Post by **winston** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:29 pm

Steve, Parisienne Walkways is one of my favourite GM tunes. He can make his Les Paul sing.

Thin Lizzy rocked no matter who was in the band. I hated the lineup changes but hey, that's the nature of Rock and Roll.

loendmaestro · Post by **loendmaestro** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:12 am

But you hafta admit the "classic" lineup is the 74-78 one!

12stringbassist · Post by **12stringbassist** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:52 am

Phil's use of the mirrored scratchplate / pickguard to pick out people in the crowd came from when the Lizzy supported Slade and Noddy Holder's mirrored top hat used to reflect beams of light into the crowd.

I read an old interview where Phil said never waste a good trick like that!

loendmaestro · Post by **loendmaestro** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:52 am

Great story! Maybe that's what drew him to Rick basses then? That's the first time I saw the video for The Rocker & he was using the pickup cover. Later he got a 4001 he put the mirrored pickguard on. Before the classic P-Bass setup.

But that does sound pretty Slade-esque.

rick_ovic · Post by **rick_ovic** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:44 pm

Chris, I managed to find the Thin Lizzy DVD at an import shop here in Melbourne about six months ago.

I agree with every comment you made in your original post (he says.....ducking...as the Gary Moore fans start swinging punches!). Seeing Phil Lynott playing a Jetglo 4000 just like mine was really cool.

Another highlight for me was the clip of of "King's Call" with Phil playing the Gretsch White Falcon. I had been searching for that clip for years.

I recognise Gary Moore's talent but he's not my cup of tea. "Still Got The Blues" was a great song and I have the album that song came from.

I think my views of Gary Moore are coloured by the timing of his rise to 'blues' fame, which co-incided with the death of Stevie Ray Vaughan. I always felt slightly miffed that Moore seemed to step into the void that SRV left behind.

I haven't listened to any of Moore's later stuff so I will get off my soapbox now and defer to my forum colleagues (Howard, Brian, Steve)who are in a better position to comment on Moore's overall talent!

winston · Post by **winston** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:04 pm

I have been impressed with GM for years long before, as you put it Darren, he filled a void left by SRV. His body of work is replete with some of the most tasteful and well crafted music on the blues scene. I am particularly drawn to his moody interplay with the bass and keyboards.

I could go on and on about his phrasing which is in a class of it's own IMO. Simply put he makes his guitar sing and he not only reproduces those sounds live, he enhances them with a rich stage presence that few these days can manage.

He's a star in my books. But I'm a fan of the blues...so what do I know at the end of the day about who's good and who's not? I just want to have fun and play my guitar(s).