Far Out, Man

studiotwosession · Post by **studiotwosession** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:50 pm

If we could only get a clip of one of the Stones answering a similar question during the same era.

revolver323 · Post by **revolver323** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:57 pm

The scary thing is, I actually understand Paul's answer.

winston · Post by **winston** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:04 pm

The fact that you understand him is no surprise, at least not to me any way. That's called experience Dave.

jingle_jangle · Post by **jingle_jangle** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:53 pm

I have no problem understanding his answer, but why does it take several self-important minutes to give it? It's a simple concept.

BTW, I'm sure he's lost that naivete by now. "It's OK and nothing to be afraid of because humans created it/did it..." Phew. So that atom bomb/war/poverty/crime stuff isn't a big deal. Thank God.

winston · Post by **winston** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:58 pm

Exactly

studiotwosession · Post by **studiotwosession** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:59 pm

I think they covered the rest about a year later with Revolution. Thanks to a three minute time limit and writing as opposed to Q & A the results were more concise.

Though Pauly was certainly eloquent, correct and to the point regarding the press wanting answers to their questions without responsibility for dissemination of the answer about the same time this answer was taped on roughly the same subject.

beatlefreak · Post by **beatlefreak** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:25 pm

You gotta remember, the WAS 1967 when the interview was done - Paul could have been tripping.

gregga41 · Post by **gregga41** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:49 am

And how old would he have been?...24?..25??,as with all 25 year olds,didnt we know it all by that age?..haha!

rumbush · Post by **rumbush** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 6:51 am

Paul did acid only a very few times so more than likely he wasn't tripping during this interview. He has stated that throughout Pepper he was doing coke quite a lot, hence a possible explanation for the verbal incontinence. He looks kinda stoney as well.

studiotwosession · Post by **studiotwosession** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:43 am

I count five answers here. I wonder what Paul's favorite "freak out" music was at this time. Credit to Frank Zappa for that title.

Speaking of tea, I wonder how much the fabs smoked after Help, or whether they kept their intake of it up as they dabbled in other substances in an effort to open all those doors they were talking about.

Also, anyone know when and perhaps who with Lennon started getting into the really hard stuff?

I think it's rather amazing how much has been written about the Beatles and how little about John and junk, especially the fact is it not even mentioned in the Anthology.

And it has as much to do with what he was writing as acid did.

In the Who's Next Classic Albums doc. Townshend says he was afraid Moon was going to become a junkie during the making of that album.

I don't see why the fabs couldn't have delved into the same subject. It's got to be impossible for friends to see other friends get into that stuff without becoming seriously worried. I know Harrison said in '71 that it was one thing he had not yet tried (and would not.)

randyz · Post by **randyz** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:20 pm

Glenn: Although it's nobody's business, here's what I've learned about the Beatles and their drug use. Obviously the Beatles were still smoking heavily after 'Help!'. Paul is still a smoker. I've read that Yoko introduced John to heroin, because she and her estranged husband were both long time users. It was apparently the drug of choice in the New York art scene. I have read that John never injected heroin. He snorted it. I've also read that George and John were also occasional users of various psychedelics (acid and mushrooms) right till the end.

And I would like to add an observation about sixties rockers and acid. Whenever you hear someone answer the question "Have you used LSD?" with something like "I'm not sure" or "Maybe but those were wild times, man", they are lying. They either did or they didn't, but they couldn't have forgotten.

As a side note, Pete Townshend stopped using psychedelics in late 1967. Of course that doesn't mean he never tripped after that. After the Monterrey (sp?) Pop Festival in '67, Pete decided to take a hit of STP to fight the boredom of the long flight home. He soon found out how much stronger it was than acid he had tried. I believe he stayed away after that hellish ordeal. I've also read that he and the rest of the band got 'dosed' backstage at Woodstock in 1969. The band was none too happy about that.

studiotwosession · Post by **studiotwosession** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:38 pm

Yes, Randy, I guess it is nobody's business. But if you're going to run clips about drug use, and talk about drug use, why not talk about it all? After all, any drug in question is nobody's business.

Especially if it is ancient history but relevant history nonetheless. Had he lived, I wonder if Lennon himself would have said more about it. It's not exactly like he was keeping it a secret by recording Cold Turkey.

And I think it's pretty clear he was alluding to the "need" to do drugs, including H, in his last interviews by not excluding it, which Harrison did (Harrison also talked about quitting certain things for good.)

And there are other Rock bios where people have talked about doing it (Levon Helm, etc.)

I've heard as much as what you've talked about. But as far as his H use goes, it's still pretty vague (i.e. when he was using it, when he stopped still seem to be mysteries.)

One thing about Yoko; she may well have been using and influenced his use but there certainly were plenty of users around them I'm sure.

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:42 pm

Here's Paul with a bad case of the munchies

randyz · Post by **randyz** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:50 pm

Glenn: If I had to speculate on when John started using heroin, I would say it was in 1968. He came back from India feeling very cynical and soon after hooked-up with Yoko. This was the time when the flower in flower power wilted for a lot of hippies. Songs on the 'White Album' like 'I'm So Tired' and 'Happiness Is A Warm Gun' seem to be heroin inspired. During the 'Get Back' or 'Let It Be' sessions, he and Yoko are inseparable (like a couple of junkies). John was often absent during the 'Abbey Road' sessions. His 'Cold Turkey' single obviously let the cat out of the bag, so to speak. I believe that in early 1970, John and Yoko probably kicked their habit with the help of Dr. Janov and his primal scream therapy. The primal scream is prominent on the 'Plastic Ono Band' album. This is my speculation based upon John's behavior, which may be less deceptive than what anyone might say or not say about his drug problem.

studiotwosession · Post by **studiotwosession** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:34 pm

Makes sense, though he was absent for three weeks or so during the Road sessions because of an auto accident.

The togetherness like junkies aspect is an angle I have not heard considered before.