'73 4001 tuners

chefothefuture · Post by **chefothefuture** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:46 am

Pat Paulson for president!

I love the old Grovers. They're easily fixed, and when well
greased, they are very smooth. Like so many parts Rick used over time, they add an idiosyncratic air to the 4001.

Victor- that's the earliest Rick with the lower A peg placement I've seen.

freewheelin · Post by **freewheelin** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:52 am

Hey, John, check this one :
http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-73-RICKENBACKER-4001-COLLECTABLE-BASS-GUITAR_W0QQitemZ330010547323QQihZ014QQcategoryZ41439QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

bassman · Post by **bassman** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:05 am

I've never had a problem with mine. I better go touch wood now.

markbass99 · Post by **markbass99** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:41 am

I have a couple of basses with "propeller" grovers and a person that was very familiar with them coming apart said that the secret to avoiding this was to make sure your bass isn't slamming around inside it's case. The side loading of the tuners causes trauma to the swaged pins and the gear "box" starts to get loose. Of course it's not hard to fix, just take them off and re-swage the pins.

ben_brown · Post by **ben_brown** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:29 am

These are pretty even...

johnhall · Post by **johnhall** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:36 am

Indeed, it's not hard to swage the pins properly. Certainly trauma in the case could expedite the failure but the actual source of the problem was the lack of proper swaging when Grover transferred production to Taiwan.

ben_brown · Post by **ben_brown** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:55 am

The tuners on this 73 are close to being even at the top.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1973-Rickenbacker-4001-Fire-Glow_W0QQitemZ260009908635QQihZ016QQcategoryZ4713QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Isn't this the wrong way to put a cover on a '73?

ben_brown · Post by **ben_brown** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 11:58 am

Can someone post a pic of what gets swaged?
I've never seen Grover's insides...

johnhall · Post by **johnhall** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:18 pm

It's not inside, it's the corners on the underside, where each corner pin goes through the mounting plate. Rather than being nice and mashed flat, they should have a dimple as you would expect from a tapered punch.

chefothefuture · Post by **chefothefuture** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:44 pm

I have two June '73s. One has the early A string placement, and the other has the newer placement.