Real Love vs. Free as a Bird

Scastles · Post by **Scastles** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:56 am

While your query about Lennon and his sons is unique, Peter, I for one would prefer not to see it come to fruition, but I could easily see Yoko attempting such a fusion.

admin · Post by **admin** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:58 am

I am in agreement with you Stan.

shamustwin · Post by **shamustwin** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:06 am

Anyone else feel one of his sons might have a better chance at such a deal than the other?

admin · Post by **admin** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:08 am

I am not sure Jerry, but I will say that Julian's voice would probably sound like a double-tracked Lennon. Should we choose a track? Come Together?

winston · Post by **winston** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:43 am

Julian's voice has some of the same nasal qualities but with a more limited range. Sean's voice is very pitchy to my ears plus his range is quite limited.

I'm in agreement with Stan on this one.

shamustwin · Post by **shamustwin** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:53 am

I was inferring that Yoko, being sole sayer of what is done with anything Lennon, would probably leave Julian out of the whole process in the unlikely event something like this should occur.

But you never know, she did apparently acknowledge Cynthia Lennon at the Las Vegas "Love" opening.

winston · Post by **winston** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:59 am

Yep, she was cozy with Paul too. Wonders will never cease with that woman.

studiotwosession · Post by **studiotwosession** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:58 am

I like FAAB. I can imagine Lennon coming into the studio with it in the old days and George Martin says, "I like it, but it's too slow. We need a single. Speed it up."

Like Revolution, they might have done a slow version and a fast version.

brammy · Post by **brammy** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:08 pm

hmmmm... very possibly so!... a sort of 'Please Please Me' situation, eh?

For both FAAB and RL, we must keep in mind that they were only home demos by John... never meant to be the used in the released version.

studiotwosession · Post by **studiotwosession** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:08 am

>>Actually, Nick Lowe would have been a great choice for Harrison, Petty, Orbison, and/or the Wilbury.<<

As producer they'd have been great to go with with Lowe or Petty (Petty does have producer credits for people like Del Shannon, his own band, etc., though he in his own career got mixed up with Lynne and, ugh, Dave Stewart) or anyone else with stellar three minute rock and pop song cred, in this category I'd place Marshall Crenshaw, Gram Parker, etc.

Unfortunately they all were too far removed from being in the know it seems to have been familer with the talent that followed them in the late 70s and 80s.

Just like the FAABs in the choice of their final producer (and Spector for Harri and Lepper's early solo stuff) they became way too conservative by their early 30s, making a lot of these kinds of judgements based on one's chart success instead of knowing who truly was best regarding matters of talent and taste.

In much the same way, Ringo could be doing a lot better with his All Starr Band concept at this point.

westtexasrickenbacker · Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:31 am

"Real Love" is the song for me. I think the guitar work from George is outstanding and the melody is much more catchy!

The slide work on 'Free as a Bird' is good, but the song was a big disappointment for me, particularly the way they hyped it that night long ago.

Can't hear much of Paul's bass or Ringo's drums and John's voice was murky. There's only so much that could be done with a bad cassette tape to start with. I think FAAB is a "B" song of John's at best, too! Maybe even less than that, I mean, we are talking about J. Lennon and the Beatles.

I can't hear much bass or drums on "Real Love" either, but the song is so much better.

webhead · Post by **webhead** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:07 pm

"Real Love" sounds more like a Beatle-y tune

studiotwosession · Post by **studiotwosession** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 5:15 am

I think they both sound very Beatle-y. How couldn't they?

Real Love is perhaps more reminiscent of the MMT era, FAAB more Abbey Road.

The original questions were, which should have been promoted the most as a single, and was Real Love arranged as well as could have been (I think they blew the intro with it, retaining the little piano intro John originally played.)

FAAB is an excellent example of George's guitar technique post Fabs. Real Love is but lesser so.

simer4001 · Post by **simer4001** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:05 am

I think they didn't have as much interest in "Real Love" and perhaps it shows. Although I like the song and John's piano intro.

expomick · Post by **expomick** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:30 am

Though ELO is a guilty pleasure of mine, I can't stand Jeff Lynne's production style.

Thus, in my own highly prejudicial manner, I don't consider those two songs "real" Beatles' songs. Much like the Clash never recorded "Cut The ****".

(I'm sure Neil Aspinell is trembling as he reads this).