That cap mod--pls clarify

paul_yan · Post by **paul_yan** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 5:56 am

Bottom view of Andrew's '64 Horseshoe:

wints · Post by **wints** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 4:09 pm

Paul, thanks for helping in posting those...No, I don,t mind sharing the 68 with the forum. It,s a great bass in incredible condition, and that,s the purpose of this site. The baseplate... looks like Ric was using a little more metal in 64, than in 68...just another 60,s area where things change, and again, without this forum as reference, we,d never know about it..

wints · Post by **wints** » Wed Jun 04, 2003 4:10 pm

Hey Eden, any chance of seeing your baseplate to compare....

headbanger · Post by **headbanger** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 4:53 am

Guys, some interesting things to note about these two pickups. The base plate on my '64 looks the same as Andrews, roughly cut, square ends. Mine is also drilled off centre a bit. The '68 has rounded ends more like some I've seen from some lapsteels. Perhaps this is indicative of the big rush of production in 1964. Get 'em out quick.
The bobbins are different. The one from '64 has a lip around the outer edge & is black. Same as what I had. The '68 bobbin is more like an early highgain & might have been made like that to use up whatever parts were still available. Great to finally see some pics of these old beauties.

gpatt5762 · Post by **gpatt5762** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 2:57 pm

Looks like the reissue horseshoes have been to the orthodontist compared to the "occlusally challenged" (buck-toothed to those of you on Ajax, ON) Real McCoys.

Garry

weemac · Post by **weemac** » Thu Jun 05, 2003 6:04 pm

My 64s horeshoe looks like Andrews (ie like a poor copy) However, mine looks a little more used Still sounds fine though!

rickcrazy · Post by **rickcrazy** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 7:55 am

Hm... This is Rickcrazy back on the airwaves again! Well, not yet, actually - I'm sending this message from my brother's computer. Mine won't become operational again until the end of the month.
Paul, thanks for the free advertising, as it were, to my pickups. The new treble p.u. with the mini toggle switch is ready. Expect it to blow the speaker cone out of the cabinet!
I'll stroll around a bit to read the new messages.
See ya!

rickcrazy · Post by **rickcrazy** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 12:54 pm

I'm back again, this time for good.
Well, thanks for the horseshoe pics & specs, guys. Now I know exactly what an ORIGINAL 4001 horseshoe pickup looks like. Very interesting indeed. I can see the high-gain pickup bobbin is basically the same as the horseshoe pickup one.
Anyone for replacement horseshoe bobbin & coil assemblies? Just kidding.
Seriously, if I were to make my own version of the 4001 horseshoe pickup I would use larger polepieces (as on the F*****-like re-issue version), thereby increasing both output and sensitivity.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 2:42 pm

My 1968 horseshoe has screw pole pieces ... although I can't adjust them because of the horseshoe cover ...

rickcrazy · Post by **rickcrazy** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 4:14 am

Jeff: can you tell whether the 68 pickup bobbin is held together by the polepieces, in 70s/80s high-gain pickup fashion? Or is it rather a single piece of plastic which doesn't depend on the polepieces in any structural way?

rickcrazy · Post by **rickcrazy** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 4:20 am

As for dimensions, I assume the 68 horseshoe pickup bobbin to be roughly 3" long, 1" wide and 2/4" tall. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.

jwr2 · Post by **jwr2** » Sun Jun 22, 2003 8:45 am

that's pretty accurate