John as a guitarist?

[Scastles]

http://www.markhenri.com/music/MickTaylor.html
Mick Taylor Interview.

The seventh question on this interview is about Mick's own participation in HTW.

[studiotwosession]

Well, then, Stan, the disagreement isn't between you and me. It's between Mick and Keith.

[shamustwin]

Charlie says Jimmy Miller played drums on a few tracks of Let It Bleed, including "You Can't Always Get What You Want". He says Miller made him re-think his playing, and as a consequence feels he became a much better drummer in the studio. Shoot, I always thought he was great on records.

[Scastles]

It could be, Glenn. After 40 plus years of Jack Daniels, etc. and falling out of a palm tree on his noggin', Richards is lucky he can even remember how to play, or wake up.

[studiotwosession]

According to Mike, Kenny ended up on HTW because he was in town and up in the middle of the night.

[westtexasrickenbacker]

John was a great player. Has anyone tried to learn the Rhythm part to "She Said, She Said"? That is one cool part and it's tough to play within the context of the song.

Another extremely cool rhythym part that I always thought was John's, but have recently found out was Paul's playing is the second guitar part of 'Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band'. Turns out Paul played Rythym, Lead and Bass on the finished track of that song. Just goes to show that all three of those guys were capable on the 6-string.

They did jell their guitars and bass very well together.

I recently read an interview with George Harrison where he was stating that the double lead parts to "And Your Bird Can Sing" were he and Paul's baby. Also, I saw the rooftop video for the little lead breaks, I think they are double-stop 6ths on the bridge of "Don't Let Me Down", are George's playing. Very tasteful guitar licks.

[davclr]

Let's face it.

The Beatles all were passionate about their guitar playing!
And three of the Beatles could all play bass as well and in fact did so on some of their recordings particularly during the White Album phase and beyond.

The "Let It Be" movie clearly shows JWL sitting next to Tokyo Rose playing that Fender Bass VI (a six string bass) for the recording of Let It Be and the "Long and Winding Road."

And listen to that ending on the second side of "Abbey Road!"

Here we hear the Fabs officially "signing off" as a group, but each one of the three guitar players putting down their memorable lead guitar solos and Ringo doing his only drum solo on released record.

[studiotwosession]

It's always interesting speculation about when Paul or John had a song, whether they had some of the primary riffs worked out for it.

Day Tripper one can almost imagine the lick came first.

Your Bird and the middle eight of Don't Let Me Down, who knows.

Lennon could have had them, in part of whole, or the others could have come up with them on the fly, though And Your Bird isn't much of a song without them, almost seems like those phrases would have been there from the git-go, which means Lennon came up with them, whether he played 'em on the final track or not.

And I thought George gave various interviews about who did that. In one he said it was he and Paul, the other he and Paul or he and John.

One thing's for sure. They really didn't care who got credit.

[wolfgang]

Alex,
I do believe, the rhythm part of "she said" was played by George.
I think the distorted solo guitar is John. Doubletracked at the fade out of the song.

[westtexasrickenbacker]

Perhaps you are correct about the rhythym part on "She Said...". I only became aware of the complexity of the part when learning it off one of those mags with an accompanying CD. The instructor credited John with the part, but who knows for sure.

Emerick talks about the song in his new book. Who remembers what he said?

[studiotwosession]

There are fabulous rhythms on Revolver and Pepper's. It's astounding how different the styles sound compared to LPs they recorded not long before.

[lennonon]

I believe it was Paul who suggested the "countermelody" as he refers to it on the "Day by Day:Nagra Reels" boot, in reference to Don't Let Me Down. The "middle eight" passage. He seems to have had a vocal line with the melody GH plays on the final track and some filler words, but, while a vocal part was abandoned after only a few takes, the descending melody line stayed put.

One of my favorite Beatle moments and another genuine L-M moment.

[studiotwosession]

>>One of my favorite Beatle moments and another genuine L-M moment.<<

Indeed. One of their most underrated tunes.

[wolfgang]

Lennon was great as a composer and singer.

And, as a guitarist, he invented D7#9 (a.k.a. the "Hendrix chord")to pop music, he played solo on Long tall Sally, Matchbox, You can't do that, he made songs like I'm happy just to dance with you (it's just his 325/Miami, I can hear no more guitars in it!)and such complex rhythms like She said, she said and Good morning, just by intuition. And your bird can sing, Yer blues... He was a great musician.

[davclr]

Yes! there was a very remarkable lack of 'Well! I did this and the others weren't as good!" stuff from this, the forever world's most nearly God-like iconic and influential charismatic group.

Ringo mentioned this in his own way of telling in the Anthology DVD series.

As Ringo so well put it, "Whoever had the best idea is the one we used!"

And on John Lennon's lamentedly last series of print interviews he did for Playboy Mag just weeks before he died he staunchly defended every single member's playing ability and skill as musicians.