WHEN did Beatles last use a Rickenbacker???

[rickinroma]

Don't know where, but I think I've read rick 12 strings was used in Here There and Everywhere (before and while singing "But to love her is to need her)

[jt10824]

Ethan,

Where exactly in his book does Geoff Emerick mention John using his Rickenbacker 6-string during the making of Strawberry Fields Forever? I'd appreciate a page number because I cannot find any such mention.

You also talk about a "few questionable facts" in the book, such as confusing the 'common' vs. 'rare' endings of Penny Lane. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he got it right. On page 145, he says:

"Later that same day [after the piccolo trumpet overdub] we did a mix that was couriered to Capitol in the U.S. for pressing... The mix was a good one, but after some contemplation it was decided that Mason's piccolo trumpet flourish at the very end was superfluous. And so a week later, the song was remixed and the piccolo removed from the end of the song. Some early U.S. pressings of the single still contained the original mix, however. As a result, they have since become quite a collector's item."

What's incorrect or inaccurate about that statement?

[studiotwosession]

>>What's incorrect or inaccurate about that statement?<<

Some of this is like someone saying "when they tracked take 7 of She Loves You the fader on Paul's bass amp mic was on 6."

And someone else writes in "no, it was on 5."

[davclr]

"Later that same day [after the piccolo trumpet overdub] we did a mix that was couriered to Capitol in the U.S. for pressing... The mix was a good one, but after some contemplation it was decided that Mason's piccolo trumpet flourish at the very end was superfluous. And so a week later, the song was remixed and the piccolo removed from the end of the song. Some early U.S. pressings of the single still contained the original mix, however. As a result, they have since become quite a collector's item."

This statement is actually correct. In fact when I very first heard "Penny Lane" when it was "hot released" for am radio airplay in the 1960's Los Angeles market, the first Capitol pressing (with Dave Mason's trumpet at the end) was used for
radio airplay. I immediatley went out to buy the single the day it was released to the public. I was shocked to hear that my single had a different ending then what was being played on the radio!

[davclr]

Macca of course picked up the "Rickenbacker void" in the group by focusing on his trusty Ric 4001 bass.

Even though I really liked the sounds the Casino's were giving the Fabs music I remember well as a 15 years old, being quite upset by the absence of the Rics!
To me it was like experiencing a family divorce!

[beatlefreak]

The seven note trumpet ending was issued on most Capitol promotional copies of the single. There are a few known promo copies without the extra flourish. Those are the really rare copies. No Capitol singles issued to the public (commercial copies)have it.

[shamustwin]

I, too, remember hearing the alternate ending on the radio here in L.A. back in the day as they say.

[qmoder]

I wonder what would have happened if Ric had released the Highgains in 69? I like the older Ric sound as well as any one. The toaster is very distinictive.
But the Highgain has the Grit that the sixties and early seventies began to oooze out of very pour in the fabric of rock music.
I'm sure that was the over riding force in the switch from Ric. At the end of his life John had begun a come back to his old 325. Perhaps George might have eventually used his twelve again had he remained in good health and continued to record guitar based music on his own.
The Casino's with their hot P90's were their first taste and fore ray into the heavier side of guitar based music. After George got hold of Lucy he was really doing heavier style leads that the Ric's at the time were not capable. I think that every one goes thru a Les Paul phase. Some never graduate beyond it.
My guitar career started with a Kustom guitar. Very simular to a Ric. Then I got a Les Paul and a Strat. Now in the past few years I've gotten a Ric with Highgains, a Duo Jet with Filertrons, a Thinline Tele with buckers, as well as few more Strats with different capabilities.
So your tastes do change and very often you wind up back where you started from too.

[jwilli]

in 69, some 381s were sent out with toasters, some with the new Hi-gains.